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CW: This episode contains discussion of childhood abuse, cult involvement, exploitation of minors, and human trafficking.
Kim Kelley was raised inside one of the most infamous high-control cults of the 20th century, formerly known as the Children of God and later rebranded as The Family International. Raised largely by the community rather than her mother, who was a high-ranking leader, Kim grew up in an environment where abuse, manipulation, and exploitation were normalized and reality itself was shaped by indoctrination. As she explains, when you are raised in a cult, you do not know anything else. Red is blue and blue is red.
As a child and young teen, Kim spent years on the streets of Houston fundraising for the cult, unseen and unprotected. In this episode, she shares how she eventually escaped, unlearned the world she was raised in, and built a life beyond survival. Today, Kim works to combat human trafficking by training law enforcement to recognize red flags and better protect vulnerable children.
Note: This episode discusses how sexuality and LGBTQ+ identities were used as tools of control within a cult. The perspectives shared are fully affirming of LGBTQ+ people and communities and are intended to highlight hypocrisy, abuse of power, and harm within high-control systems.
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Kim’s website: http://TheKimKelley.com
Kim’s TikTok: http://tiktok.com/@thekimkelley
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Kim’s Non-profit:
DigitalDefendersUnited.org
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https://www.facebook.com/DigitalDefendersUnited/
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* CW* Eating disorder recovery, OCD, intrusive thoughts
In this episode of Healed-ish, I sit down with Rihanna, who attended Bethel School of Supernatural Ministry with me back in 2012. Raised in a conservative Christian home and shaped by purity culture, Rihanna eventually found her way to Bethel, where she had meaningful spiritual experiences but also quietly relapsed into an eating disorder while working in a health-focused Internship. After moving to Los Angeles, she began healing her relationship with food and her body, and during the 2016 election season started deconstructing her faith as she wrestled with Christian nationalism and the version of God she had been taught. Today, she still loves Jesus, but on her own terms.
We also talk about her recent OCD diagnosis and living with intrusive thoughts, what it has been like to finally understand her brain, and how she is working to break the stigma around mental health and eating disorder recovery online. We reminisce about the quirky, funny, and complicated parts of life at Bethel, the highs and the lows, and what healing has looked like on the other side.
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Danielle grew up in a non-denominational church and, like many teenagers, found community and belonging through her local youth group. It was there that she met James, the youth director who would slowly become one of the most important people in her life. What began as mentorship and friendship quietly shifted into something far more complicated. Over the years, James groomed Danielle through one-on-one time, emotional intimacy, gifts, and letters that blurred boundaries. At the time, she believed they were simply best friends.
After Danielle’s story went viral on TikTok, she’s continued to process the grief of reframing memories that once felt safe and meaningful. In this episode, we talk about the unique pain of healing from grooming when it doesn’t look like what people expect, the confusion of realizing harm years later, and what it takes to untangle love, loyalty, and betrayal. This is a conversation about power, manipulation, and the long road to trusting yourself again.
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In this episode, I’m joined by Beth Granger, author of Born and Razed, who shares her story of being taken from her parents at just four years old and placed into what was presented as a Christian boarding school, but functioned as a deeply controlling and abusive cult. Beth describes being put on a diet at the age of five, subjected to “light sessions” designed to psychologically tear children down, and raised under constant fear and obedience enforced by 2 women known as “the mothers.”
Beth spent more than 30 years inside this system before eventually escaping and beginning the long process of healing. Her story became part of the first historic cult abuse case in Canada to win. In this conversation, Beth reflects on survival, identity after control, and what it means to reclaim your voice after a lifetime of spiritual abuse.
Content Warning: This episode contains discussions of abuse, eating disorders, and experiences within a cult. Take care while listening.
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Beth Granger’s IG: https://www.instagram.com/happygranger/
Beth Granger’s Book & Website: https://bethgranger.ca
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Becca was raised in the Mormon church, where nearly every part of her childhood revolved around faith, obedience, and preparation for marriage. From constant church commitments and Mormon Treks to attending BYU, her life followed a path that was considered righteous and ideal, but rarely questioned.
In this episode, Becca opens up about Mormon doctrine, purity culture, and the invasive ways control over women’s bodies can show up in religious spaces. She shares her experience of a premarital medical exam, being given dilators, and undergoing an unnecessary hymenectomy. Now divorced, deconstructed, and living fear free as a queer woman, Becca reflects on unlearning shame, reclaiming autonomy, and rebuilding her identity outside the church.
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In this episode, I sit down with Amy Duggar to talk about faith, family, and what it means to disrupt dysfunctional patterns. Amy shares her experience growing up adjacent to fame on 19 Kids & Counting, the red flags she noticed early on, and what it was like holding truth while surrounded by silence. We also talk about her book, Holy Disrupter, and why she believes disruption can be sacred when it comes to breaking unhealthy family systems.
Amy opens up about healing from an abusive father, how her relationship with God has evolved, and how she is learning to live with honesty, boundaries, and purpose. This conversation is about choosing truth over image, faith over fear, and finding the courage to disrupt cycles that were never meant to continue.
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Part 2 of 2
Emily didn’t grow up religious, but after a traumatic assault, she was searching for something to make her feel whole again. That search led her into Campus Crusade for Christ, years of overseas missions, and a deep commitment to faith and service. Over time, she began to notice troubling patterns, including witnessing a child with cerebral palsy accused of seeking out witchcraft and pressured to walk.
In this episode, Emily shares how her experiences in missions and a charismatic church, including false prophecies and prayers to heal her own son, ultimately led her and her husband to step back and reevaluate everything they believed. Through deconstruction, grief, and rebuilding, they found a new way forward rooted in humanity, community, and compassion.
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Part 1 of 2
Emily didn’t grow up religious, but after a traumatic assault, she was searching for something to make her feel whole again. That search led her into Campus Crusade for Christ, years of overseas missions, and a deep commitment to faith and service. Over time, she began to notice troubling patterns, including witnessing a child with cerebral palsy accused of seeking out witchcraft and pressured to walk.
In this episode, Emily shares how her experiences in missions and a charismatic church, including false prophecies and prayers to heal her own son, ultimately led her and her husband to step back and reevaluate everything they believed. Through deconstruction, grief, and rebuilding, they found a new way forward rooted in humanity, community, and compassion.
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In this episode of Healed-ish, Cherie talks about growing up in an ultra-strict Christian home where she was homeschooled with curriculum that rewrote history, promoted strict creationism, and even framed Barack Obama as the anti-Christ. From childhood, Cherie was taught that her primary purpose was to become a wife and mother within the ideals of complementarianism. At her Christian college, men and women were not allowed to spend time together off campus, and girls were even prohibited from wearing their hair wet because it was considered tempting.
Cherie shares what sparked her deconstruction, being in an interfaith marriage, and why she is now raising awareness about Project 2025, something she recognizes deeply because she was essentially raised inside its ideology. This conversation is about indoctrination, awakening, and speaking out before history repeats itself.
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Joshua Harris, author of the bestselling and culture-defining book I Kissed Dating Goodbye, joins Healed-ish for a conversation I’m sure neither of us saw coming. In this episode, we talk about his upbringing, what led him to embrace purity culture as a teenager, writing his book at just 21 years old, and watching it explode across evangelical spaces in ways he never imagined.
Josh opens up about what later caused him to question everything he once believed, how listening to the stories of people harmed by purity culture changed him, and why he ultimately chose to publicly renounce his own book and apologize for the damage it caused. Together, we explore accountability, deconstruction, and what it really looks like to rebuild your life when your faith, identity, and certainty fall apart.
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Josh Harris’s Website: https://joshharris.com
Surviving I Kissed Dating Goodbye Documentary: https://streamable.com/1ldz9c?utm_source=ig&utm_medium=social&utm_content=link_in_bio&fbclid=PAZXh0bgNhZW0CMTEAc3J0YwZhcHBfaWQMMjU2MjgxMDQwNTU4AAGnwVL6rB615JLPYmBioQFG75ATVnZuQ1OS8VWvve_EKhvfII63IhpIEnveJQM_aem_vmFb_Hm5AvMLmCul_tdSjA
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