Cathy and Todd discuss the cyclical nature of abuse and how to recognize red flags and help our kids recognize them, too. They discuss Evan Rachel Wood’s documentary, Phoenix Rising about her history with Marilyn Manson, and how other documentaries and even personal stories have similar patterns and experiences. They discuss how to notice and create a conversation around grooming, love bombing, gaslighting, and isolation so we can help our kids develop healthy boundaries and recognize when they are being manipulated.