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Hope in Unexpected Transitions with Brandi Wilson and Lori Wilhite


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Brandi Wilson was happily raising her three sons with her pastor husband—that is, until he decided to leave their marriage, their family, and the church they had invested in for years. 

Close friends and leadership coaches Brandi Wilson and Lori Wilhite share how they weathered Wilson’s devastating loss together. They talk about the particular struggles of being a pastor’s wife and the heartbreak of feeling like someone else is controlling your life circumstances. They discuss managing anxiety, bearing one another’s burdens, and healing even when restoration does not occur. 

They also share about the community they run together—Leading and Loving It—and why, despite all the hard things, they still love the church. 

Resources mentioned in this episode or recommended by the guests include:

  • Brandi Wilson
  • Lori Wilhite
  • Leading and Loving It
  • Friedman’s Fables by Ed Friedman
  • The Enneagram
  • Philippians: Chasing Happy by Lori Wilhite

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