After our recent intimacy series, there were dozens of follow up questions from you all asking us to dive further into normal hormonal changes as we age and proactive steps you can take to age gracefully AND stay connected through the changes. 

In this episode, double board-certified physician Dr. Amy Shah (women’s health & nutrition) joins us to bust the “dad bod/mom bod is just aging” myth—and lay out practical, evidence-informed steps couples can use to sleep better, reduce stress, protect libido, and stay united through perimenopause, menopause, and men’s steady testosterone decline.

In This Episode You’ll Learn:

-Why “dad bod/mom bod” is more about habits + hormones than age

-The gut–brain–hormone loop that impacts mood, energy & attraction

-How to time difficult conversations around the cycle (and when not to)

-The midlife health stack: movement, strength, sprinting, nutrition, sleep

-Alcohol & hormones: why a 30–90 day break can be a game-changer

-Men’s testosterone: fix root causes before quick fixes

-Labs that matter (and why symptoms often beat hormone numbers)

-The updated science on HRT for women—and when to consider it

-“Gray divorce”: how to adapt as a team through this season

 

About Our Guest:

Dr. Amy Shah is a double board-certified MD and nutritionist focused on the gut-brain connection, women’s health, and fitness medicine. Through AmyMD Wellness, books, speaking, and social channels, she helps people take control of their wellness with practical, research-backed tools.

 

Resource Links:

• Dr. Amy Shah: IG @dramymd • TikTok @dramymd • Website: amymdwellness.com

• Our most-used marriage tools & guides: meetthefreemans.com/links

• Work with us / in-person Couples Workshop Oct 5th (AZ): meetthefreemans.com/workshop

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Episode Timestamps of What We Discussed:

02:34 Welcome + why we brought Dr. Amy on this topic

03:43 Health ↔ marriage: stress, cortisol, sleep & conflict

05:10 Listener question: attraction & a partner’s “dad bod”

06:04 Why “dad/mom bod” isn’t inevitable—habits + hormones

07:35 What healthy aging actually looks like (mindset matters)

08:58 The study: reversing heart age over 2 years (plan overview)

10:59 Modeling vs. nagging your partner’s health

12:21 Women 30s–50s: perimenopause basics & early signs

14:01 Energy, sleep, gut changes & libido shifts

15:23 Estrogen vs. progesterone—“two sisters” in your brain

19:00 Don’t make big decisions late-luteal; timing tough talks

23:03 Men’s testosterone: steady decline & root-cause fixes

26:40 Alcohol & hormones: realistic targets + try a break

29:41 Movement, nutrition & why sleep is #1

32:07 Should couples go to bed at the same time?

33:04 Labs that matter; why symptoms often beat hormone levels

35:01 HRT for women (updated science) & considerations for men

37:50 “Gray divorce,” shifting tolerance & communicating needs

41:16 Adapting habits together to age gracefully as a team

44:23 Where to find Dr. Amy + wrap