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In this powerful episode, Ian and I explore how these time-tested principles can radically shift your relationship with yourself and others. We talk about the freedom that comes from radical honesty, the courage it takes to confront your own story, and how the Twelve Steps can guide anyone—no matter their background—toward healing and wholeness. This conversation is real, vulnerable, and packed with insight. Whether you're familiar with the Steps or just curious, this episode will challenge and inspire you to take your own brave next step toward change.
Ian Morgan Cron is a bestselling author, speaker, trained psychotherapist, songwriter, and Episcopal priest, but he may be best known for popularizing the Enneagram.
You can learn more about Ian and his book: https://ianmorgancron.com/about-ian
Connect with me:
Dr. Zoe Shaw on Instagram
Dr. Zoe Shaw on Facebook
Dr. Zoe Shaw Website
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In this powerful episode, Ian and I explore how these time-tested principles can radically shift your relationship with yourself and others. We talk about the freedom that comes from radical honesty, the courage it takes to confront your own story, and how the Twelve Steps can guide anyone—no matter their background—toward healing and wholeness. This conversation is real, vulnerable, and packed with insight. Whether you're familiar with the Steps or just curious, this episode will challenge and inspire you to take your own brave next step toward change.
Ian Morgan Cron is a bestselling author, speaker, trained psychotherapist, songwriter, and Episcopal priest, but he may be best known for popularizing the Enneagram.
You can learn more about Ian and his book: https://ianmorgancron.com/about-ian
Connect with me:
Dr. Zoe Shaw on Instagram
Dr. Zoe Shaw on Facebook
Dr. Zoe Shaw Website

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