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In this episode, we invite back one of our favorite counselors, Jessica McDaniel, who runs a private practice in Austin, TX with her husband, Ryan. We dive into the crucial collaboration between therapists and pastors, especially when helping couples deal with infidelity and betrayal trauma. 

Jessica shares how both therapeutic and pastoral support are essential for comprehensive healing. We discuss the importance of creating safe environments, clear communication, and breaking down the stigma around mental health in church settings. Jessica also offers practical advice for building strong, collaborative relationships between therapists and church leaders to better support couples in crisis.

To learn more about Jessica and Ryan’s counseling practice, visit McDanielCounseling.com.

Topics Covered in this Episode:

• Collaboration between therapists and pastors in addressing infidelity and betrayal trauma.
• The importance of integrating therapeutic and pastoral support for couples.
• Challenges individuals face in choosing between confiding in a pastor or a therapist.
• The divide between "church life" and therapeutic needs, and its impact on seeking help.
• Creating a safe environment for individuals to discuss sensitive issues with church leaders.
• The necessity of dual support from both therapists and pastors for couples in crisis.
• Addressing misconceptions and biases between therapists and pastors.
• The role of communication and regular updates in collaborative support.
• The stigma surrounding mental health issues in church settings and the need for normalization.
• Encouraging proactive relationship-building between therapists and church leaders for better support networks.

More Resources:

• Find a Counselor
• Couples Intensives
• Church Resources

Related Podcasts:

• Becoming a Healing Church
• Talking About Taboo (with Mike Novotny)
• Can the Church Be a Safe Place for Healing and Transformation?

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