Is it possible for us to start to digitally “detox” while still leveling up at work? In this episode, Kaila and Kyle are joined by Kate Noel (host of the podcast People Person, and Morning Brew’s SVP of People Operations) to talk about how we can start to become less dependent on our screens, while still remaining diligent at our jobs. 

00:00 Intro

02:53 Should we even be trying to digitally detox?

06:37 How Kate, as an HR leader, is approaching organizational boundary setting

10:55 How to cultivate a boundary-respecting culture within an organization

15:08 How to help cultivate a boundary-respecting culture as an individual contributor

17:27 A different way to think about “work-life balance”

22:12 Should we be on our phones when we’re not working?

27:15 “You don’t rise to the level of your willpower, you fall to the level of your systems.”

32:49 An important thing to consider if you’re feeling overwhelmed at work

34:12 Final tactics for setting better boundaries at work

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