Scalability School

How to Use AI to Win in Marketing


Listen Later

This episode is basically a tactical hands-on walkthrough for using AI in creative, without turning your ad account into generic "AI slop."

Will Sartourious, owner of Selfmade.co, an agency that focuses on AI personas and AI performance creatives, joins us to lead us through his AI creative process and the importance of AI adoption in the social creative space. He primarily lumps current AI creative usage into two buckets:

  • Type 1: "Clone this ad for me." Fast volume, but you drift into sameness.

  • Type 2: Use AI to do the thinking work (research, synthesis, structure), then let humans do the "mushy middle" that differentiates. He's big on building PAM clusters (Persona–Angle–Motivation) so strategists aren't winging it and you can see where your creative gaps are before you ship more ads. From here we get into the nitty gritty of his current workflows:

  • Static → GIF/video: why GIFs often beat statics in clean A/Bs, and how to generate animated variants fast.

  • Tool split: Will uses Claude for more "creative" thinking, but uses ChatGPT specifically because it reads on-ad copy more reliably critical when your prompt needs to include every word that appears on the creative.

  • Prompt iteration loop: generate → inspect output → feed output back in → ask for prompt correction (ex: "the copy disappears—fix it so it stays on screen").

  • Midjourney reality check: great for vibes/backdrops and motion experiments, but "sucks at product rendering," so you generate the scene and then swap in the real product using other tools.

We also dive into these Key takeaways
  1. How to find the missing creative angles in your account before spending another dollar.

  2. Cut out the Middle man: How you can stop using stock photos entirely with AI, without the brand even noticing.

  3. The fastest way to turn a winning static into a GIF without opening any editing software.

  4. Why including every word of on-ad copy in the prompt matters more than being a "prompt genius".

  5. Why this AI tool is a secret weapon for AI creativity (It's literally 10X better than ChatGPT).

  6. The feedback-loop method to improve prompts without manually tweaking yourself into madness (we've all been here).

  7. The 1 tip that will make your AI people look less "plastic" and more realistic (texture/pores/realism)

  8. How Will used Sore to close a client live mid-call and how you can too. Grab Will's notes and see the final products produced during the episode, here.

This episode is sponsored by Northbeam, the marketing attribution platform that we love here at Scalability School. If you're ready to cut through the noise, stop guessing, and actually see which ads are driving your business, book a demo at www.northbeam.io/demo, and tell them Scalability School sent you. Join the club. To connect with Will Sartorious, you can follow him on x at https://x.com/will_sartorius or www.Selfmade.co

To connect with Andrew Foxwell send an email [email protected]

To connect with Brad Ploch send him a DM at https://x.com/brad_ploch

To connect with Zach Stuck send him a DM at https://x.com/zachmstuck

Learn More about the Foxwell Founders Community at https://foxwellfounders.com/

...more
View all episodesView all episodes
Download on the App Store

Scalability SchoolBy Scalability School

  • 5
  • 5
  • 5
  • 5
  • 5

5

9 ratings


More shows like Scalability School

View all
The Knowledge Project by Shane Parrish

The Knowledge Project

2,682 Listeners

Shopify Masters by Shopify

Shopify Masters

378 Listeners

How I Built This with Guy Raz by Guy Raz | Wondery

How I Built This with Guy Raz

30,167 Listeners

Founders by David Senra

Founders

2,170 Listeners

Noah Kagan Presents by Noah Kagan

Noah Kagan Presents

903 Listeners

The Game with Alex Hormozi by Alex Hormozi

The Game with Alex Hormozi

4,461 Listeners

Naval by Naval

Naval

2,123 Listeners

My First Million by Hubspot Media

My First Million

2,647 Listeners

All-In with Chamath, Jason, Sacks & Friedberg by All-In Podcast, LLC

All-In with Chamath, Jason, Sacks & Friedberg

9,946 Listeners

OPERATORS by OPERATORS

OPERATORS

50 Listeners

The Ben & Marc Show by Marc Andreessen, Ben Horowitz

The Ben & Marc Show

136 Listeners

Moneywise by Hampton

Moneywise

662 Listeners

The Andrew Faris Podcast by Andrew Faris

The Andrew Faris Podcast

24 Listeners

Marketing Operators by Marketing Operators I Connor Rolain I Connor MacDonald I Cody Plofker

Marketing Operators

11 Listeners

Tactical & Practical by Nate Lagos

Tactical & Practical

2 Listeners