Marketing Operators

Marketing Operators

By Cody Plofker, Connor MacDonald, and Connor RolainBusinessMarketing
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Marketing Operators episodes

  • We Compare a $100 DTC Funnel vs a $100M DTC Funnel

    “We weren’t doing a good job showing the value.” 

    Where does a new brand find trust when it can’t claim a bestseller like HexClad? 

    Connor MacDonald (CMO, Ridge), Cody Plofker (Advisor & fmr. CEO, Jones Road Beauty), and Connor Rolain (Head of Growth, HexClad) compare a scaled HexClad funnel with one from the weeks-old Winks. Step by step, they trace how each one builds trust across ads, landers, offers, and upsells. 

    Winks has a premium product, yet customers couldn’t see why it was worth the price. HexClad earns that trust before the click, with Japanese creators and a bestseller hook. The weeks-old brand has to build the same trust with a fraction of the proof. 

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    Aftersell 

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    Haus 

    https://www.haus.io/operators 

    NeonPixel 

    https://9ops.co/neonpixel 

    Richpanel 

    https://9ops.co/richpanel-mops 

    Proppel 

    https://www.weareproppel.com/operators 

    Operators Portal 

    https://portal.9operators.com/dashboard

    Operators Newsletter 

    https://9operators.com/ 


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    1 hr 1 min
  • HexClad + Ridge Reveal Their 8-Figure Celebrity Sweepstakes Playbook

    “Two of our winners have entered for free. They never purchased anything from us.”

    How did Ridge turn a 6-week Tony Hawk partnership into an 8-figure sweepstakes lift? 

    Connor Rolain (Head of Growth, HexClad) and Connor MacDonald (CMO, Ridge) break down how sweepstakes campaigns became eight-figure growth engines for their brands. They cover celebrity deal structures, creative production, and revenue lift across every category. 

    Tony Hawk’s deal doubled Ridge’s TV response rates and pushed partner-page ads to 40% of Meta spend. HexClad gets the same proof differently, running year-over-year holdouts and entry tiers that reward bigger purchases. Both track how sweepstakes shoppers scatter into unexpected categories, forcing a rethink of acquisition strategy. 

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    Motion 

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    Proppel 

    https://www.weareproppel.com/operators 

    Aftersell 

    https://9ops.co/aftersell-mops 

    Haus 

    https://www.haus.io/operators 

    NeonPixel 

    https://9ops.co/neonpixel 

    Richpanel 

    https://9ops.co/richpanel-mops 

    Operators Portal 

    https://portal.9operators.com/dashboard 

    Operators Newsletter 

    https://9operators.com/ 

    59 min
  • Two $100M+ Operators Get Honest About Launching New Brands

    “There’s so much that I took for granted. It’s such a different playbook.”

    What happens when two operators who’ve helped build nine-figure brands start again at zero? Connor MacDonald (CMO, Ridge) and Cody Plofker (advisor and former CEO, Jones Road) compare notes on two new launches: Ridge’s Gut Culture and Cody’s Winks.

    They get into six hard lessons from the early days.

    (1) Building with a lean team. (2) Earning credibility when nobody knows the brand. (3) Finding a message that gets clicks. (4) Testing offers before the data is conclusive. (5) Making subscription economics work. (6) Dealing with high ad costs. Cody shares what’s happening at Winks just weeks after launch; Connor explains what Ridge learned from six months of building Gut Culture.

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    Aftersell 

    https://9ops.co/aftersell-mops 

    Haus 

    https://www.haus.io/operators 

    NeonPixel 

    https://9ops.co/neonpixel 

    Operators Portal 

    https://portal.9operators.com/dashboard

    Operators Newsletter 

    https://9operators.com/ 

    1 hr 5 min
  • How a 15% Price Cut Sent a Ridge Product’s Revenue Up 60%

    Why do experienced operators still overcorrect on average order value? 

    Varun Kundra (Co-founder, Aftersell by Rokt) joins Connor MacDonald (CMO, Ridge) and Cody Plofker (Advisor & fmr. CEO, Jones Road) to break down the pricing missteps that quietly cost real revenue and the metric worth watching instead. 

    The hosts compare years of pricing tests at Ridge and Jones Road. They cover three ways to bundle for more revenue per order. Varun explains why image heavy upsells beat plain offers, plus a subscription upgrade converting at 20% to 30%. Connor and Varun wrap with a teardown of Winks, the brand behind Operators Build. 

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    Proppel 

    https://www.weareproppel.com/operators 

    Aftersell 

    https://9ops.co/aftersell-mops 

    Haus 

    https://www.haus.io/operators 

    Operators Portal 

    https://portal.9operators.com/dashboard 

    Operators Newsletter 

    https://9operators.com/ 

    1 hr 4 min
  • Two 2027 DTC Shifts: AI Retention Marketing & TikTok Creator Burnout

    “We just had a hundred thousand people buy in the last 60 days.” 

    What does the future of retention marketing actually look like by 2027? 

    Connor MacDonald (CMO, Ridge) and Connor Rolain (Head of Growth, HexClad) unpack what Postscript’s AI memories mean for retention marketing’s future. They map out a 2027 playbook built on personalized experiences, even as TikTok Shop’s creator economy hits a breaking point. 

    Postscript is building unified profiles instead of fragmented SMS data. That shift promises holdout testing and customer lifetime value tracking. RCS already shows early lift in live tests. Meanwhile TikTok Shop’s incentive structure is pushing affiliates toward burnout. 

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    Proppel 

    https://www.weareproppel.com/operators 

    Aftersell 

    https://9ops.co/aftersell-mops 

    Haus 

    https://www.haus.io/operators 

    Operators Portal 

    https://portal.9operators.com/dashboard 

    Operators Newsletter 

    https://9operators.com/ 

    1 hr 5 min
  • Holiday Offers vs Black Friday, Cyber Monday: Which Comes First?

    “Don’t let perfect measurement get in the way of good marketing” 

    How do Ridge, HexClad and Jones Road each structure Black Friday, Cyber offers differently? 

    Connor MacDonald (CMO, Ridge), Cody Plofker (CEO, Jones Road Beauty), and Connor Rolain (Head of Growth, HexClad) share how holiday marketing campaigns pull their ecommerce brands in completely different directions. 

    Shark Ninja becomes the opening case study, spending big on creator activations without measuring returns. The hosts counter with their own tactics, mixing steep weekend deal drops with full brand rebuilds between sales. The riskiest move this season turns out to be a discount that costs a brand its most loyal customers. Cody dives into Winks, a fresh sleep brand he and four other 9-figure executives are building from the ground up, and introduces Operators Build, the show capturing the entire journey from scratch.

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    Motion 

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    Haus 

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    NeonPixel 

    https://9ops.co/neonpixel 

    Richpanel 

    https://9ops.co/richpanel-mops 

    Proppel 

    https://www.weareproppel.com/operators 

    Aftersell 

    https://9ops.co/aftersell-mops 

    Operators Portal 

    https://portal.9operators.com/dashboard 

    Operators Newsletter 

    https://9operators.com/ 

    Operators Build 

    https://9ops.co/ops-build-ytplaylist

    Winks 

    https://getwinks.com/ 

    1 hr 6 min
  • Incrementality Testing for Black Friday, Cyber Monday: What to Spend?

    “It is so incredibly easy to not drive incremental results the week of Black Friday.”

    Connor MacDonald (CMO, Ridge), Cody Plofker (Advisor & fmr. CEO, Jones Road), and Connor Rolain (Head of Growth, HexClad) share how they are approaching Q4 planning.

    Before scaling Black Friday, Cyber Monday spend, both HexClad and Ridge test incrementality with real control groups. That same discipline shapes their AMER vs CAC debate, since neither wants to scale spend that isn’t truly incremental. Also, AG1’s new gummy launch steps up, and so does its cannibalization risk. 

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    Motion 

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    NeonPixel 

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    Haus 

    https://www.haus.io/operators 

    Richpanel 

    https://9ops.co/richpanel-mops 

    Aftersell 

    https://9ops.co/aftersell-mops 

    Proppel 

    https://9ops.co/weareproppel 

    Operators Newsletter 

    https://9operators.com/ 

    1 hr 1 min
  • “Leadership Is Leverage”: Motion’s CEO on the Future of Marketing

    What changes when a single marketer creates as much value as an entire department? 

    Reza Khadjavi (Founder & CEO, Motion) joins Connor MacDonald (CMO, Ridge) and Cody Plofker (Advisor & fmr. CEO, Jones Road) to explain why he built Runneth, an AI agent meant to eventually replace Motion’s own product. He walks through the context engineering behind that shift and what it means for marketers. 

    Motion scrapped its own revenue targets right after a record quarter, betting the whole company on AI agents. Reza explains how markdown files and organized repositories turn those agents into something closer to a new hire. His advice: skip the Mac Mini, move to the cloud, and put close to 10% of payroll behind AI. 

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    Haus 

    https://www.haus.io/operators 

    NeonPixel 

    https://9ops.co/neonpixel 

    Richpanel 

    https://9ops.co/richpanel 

    Operators Portal 

    https://portal.9operators.com/dashboard

    Operators Newsletter 

    https://9operators.com/

    1 hr 13 min
  • Funnel Coverage: The Upsell Fix Most Brands Never Check

    How much can filtering a collection page actually lift average order value? What about cart, checkout, and post-purchase?

    Varun Kundra (Co-founder, Aftersell) joins Connor MacDonald (CMO, Ridge) and Connor Rolain (Head of Growth, HexClad) to unpack how ecommerce brands raise AOV. Four levers make that possible: collection page tests, product bundles, post purchase upsells, and cross brand advertising. 

    HexClad’s new collection page lifted revenue per user by 7% and AOV by $10. Single silhouette bundles need no extra education, but new pairings like Japanese cookware still do. Varun ties it back to Aftersell and Rokt Thanks. Together they’ve generated over $1B in upsell revenue at a take rate under 1%. 

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    Motion 

    https://9ops.co/motion-runneth 

    Aftersell 

    https://9ops.co/aftersell-mops 

    Haus 

    https://www.haus.io/operators 

    NeonPixel 

    https://9ops.co/neonpixel 

    Richpanel 

    https://9ops.co/richpanel-mops 

    Proppel 

    https://www.weareproppel.com/operators 

    More from Operators 

    Operators Portal 

    https://portal.9operators.com/dashboard 

    Operators Newsletter 

    https://9operators.com/ 

    1 hr 16 min
  • Haus CMO Reveals the Incrementality Index Behind Smarter ROAS Calls

    “I just don’t hear a lot of good reasons why this can’t be automated”. 

    Can an algorithm allocate ad budget better than a human media buyer? 

    Olivia Kory (CMO & Strategy Officer, Haus) joins Connor MacDonald (CMO, Ridge) and Connor Rolain (Head of Growth, HexClad) to unpack incrementality testing, marketing mix modeling, and early agentic media buying. Geo lift holdouts and attribution debiasing point toward a future of automated budget decisions. 

    Olivia shows how A/B testing replaced ROAS benchmarks at Haus. Control groups and treatment cells now anchor every incrementality read. Connor Rolain also shares how one conversion campaign test reshaped HexClad’s Meta strategy. The team ties it all back to multi-touch attribution for faster decisions. 

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    Proppel 

    https://9ops.co/weareproppel 

    Aftersell 

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    Haus 

    https://www.haus.io/operators 

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    Operators Portal 

    https://portal.9operators.com/dashboard 

    Operators Newsletter 

    https://9operators.com/ 

    1 hr 13 min

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