Bishop Garrison, Director of National Security Outreach at Human Rights First, joins Laura for a wide-ranging discussion about how human rights issues impact policymaking at home and abroad.

They talk about the evolution of norms and values, how government leaders grapple with sometimes competing goals, and the role of nonprofit, corporate, and civil society actors in promoting human rights. Bishop also tells Laura about his work supporting former U.S. military translators in Iraq and Afghanistan, the impact of the Black Lives Matter movement on national security, and what makes him hopeful for the future.

Reading list:

An Appeal to the National Security Community to Fight Racial Injustice

Congress Must Act to Protect Those Who’ve Supported Us in Syria

Veterans Praise Bipartisan Legislation Providing Lifelines to Afghan Allies