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Have you ever carried shame so long it started to weigh more than the life you were living?

What if surrender isn't giving up, but the one move that sets everything free?

Bear Rinehart is the frontman and voice of NEEDTOBREATHE — one of the most distinctive vocalists of his generation, whosesongs have filled arenas for two decades. But beneath the anthems is a man who spent years growing into what the world saw as a rock-and-roll frontman. As a preacher’s kid with social anxiety, a survivor of childhood trauma, and an artist who learned early that revealing too much could cost you everything, Bear has carried more than most people would guess from the stage.

In this conversation, Miles and Bear share stories about shame, recovery, faith, fatherhood, and what it costs to finally step fully into who you are. What emerges is a portrait of two men in the middle of their own ongoing surrender, finding out in real time how much they have in common.

That surrender became NEEDTOBREATHE’s newest project — The Long Surrender — the most personal record yet to the band, written by Bear in the early mornings, recorded in first takes, and built around the one lesson Bear keeps coming back to: that freedom isn't found by holding it together. It's found the moment you stop and let others into your healing.

In this conversation, you'll learn:

• How to Recognize When Shame Is Masquerading as Strength
• How to Tell the Truth When You Fear Losing the Relationship
• How Surrender Becomes a Daily Practice, Not a One-Time Event
• How to Create From Your Real Story
• How to Repair With Your Kids Before the Moment Passes
• How to Know When Something You've Made Is True Enough to Release
• How to Build a Community That Goes Deeper
• How to Use Influence for Impact Without Losing Yourself
• How to Say Grateful 20 Years In When the World Wants More

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What We Discuss:

00:00:00 – Meet Bear Rinehart of NEEDTOBREATHE

00:05:40 – “Do You Feel Known?” Bear's Honest Answer

00:06:42 – Growing Up a Preacher's Kid with Social Anxiety

00:12:13 – Shame, the Church, and a Standard Nobody Could Meet

00:14:17 – Recovery, Rethinking, and the Freedom of Powerlessness

00:20:33 – What It Took to Finally Come Clean

00:21:53 – Childhood Trauma: Why Everyone Kept It Quiet and What That Cost

00:34:42 – Parenting Lessons From Their Kids

00:40:15 – The Long Surrender: How the Song and Album Broke Open

00:50:15 – How a Red Clay Strays Session Accidentally Led to an Album

00:59:32 – The Night Before Long Surrender

01:02:54 – Being Married to a Therapist

01:06:57 – Why Deep Adult Friendships Are Rare and Worth Fighting For

01:12:19 – A Deep Passion for Charity

01:19:58 – Bear, The Athlete

01:27:55 – From Club Rooms to Red Rocks

01:30:50 – Bear's Musical Inspirations

01:40:14 – Bear's Pre-Show Ritual & Meeting Springsteen

01:42:50 – The Hope Beyond the Music

If something in this episode resonated, it might be worth a conversation. Onsite offers intensive workshops near Nashville and San Diego for people navigating burnout, trauma, relationships, and addiction. One free call with their team can help you find the right fit. Visit ⁠experienceonsite.com⁠ or call 1-800-341-7432.

Have you ever been so buried in survival that you couldn't feel your own worth?

What if everything you survived was quietly shaping you into exactly the person someone else needs?

Kathleen Murphy, M.A., LMFT, LPC, is one of the most respected trauma clinicians in the field. Before that, she was homeless, addicted, and living on the streets with a one-year-old daughter, cycling through fourteen treatment programs before her life changed.

She opens up about her childhood trauma and how it stuck with her, growing up as "a sin" in her mother's eyes, and what it felt like to be "symbolically annihilated." She reveals how Viktor Frankl’s book, a newspaper found on the street, and a shelter bed that arrived two weeks instead of six months later changed everything — and how those experiences became the foundation for the way she teaches today. She goes deep on why our hearts are like music, how we tune each other back to the key of life, and what it really means to stop arguing with reality.

In this conversation, you'll learn:

• How to Find Your "Heart Home" and Why It Changes Everything
• How Suffering Becomes Your Greatest Gift to Others
• How to Stop Arguing With Reality and What Changes When You Do
• How to Tell the Difference Between a Boundary and Reaching Your Limit
• How Borrowing Someone's Eyes Dissolves Conflict Without Losing Your Voice
• How to Tune Your Heart Back to the Key of Life
• How to Help Someone Without Giving Advice
• How to Wake Up From a Trance of Unworthiness
• How to Hear Someone New Even If They've Told You the Same Thing Before
• How to Let Your Mess Become Your Message

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For anyone who missed it or wants a replay, this episode is back in your feed!

What We Discuss:

00:00:00 – Meet Kathleen Murphy

00:03:15 – Kathleen’s Onsite Story: a leap of faith and right timing

00:05:45 –Our hearts are more like music than machines

00:07:50 – A "heart home" and where you flourish

00:08:57 – The ocean, the storm, and the nature of the mind

00:10:30 – How to know if you're in wellness

00:13:00 – Who are you beyond your roles and your story?

00:22:04 –Learning to receive love

00:30:19 – Symbolic annihilation

00:32:55 – July 27th, 1983

00:35:21 – Standing in a courtroom at age six

00:39:25 – The moment love broke through on the streets

00:47:08 – Stepping into full surrender

00:55:13 – A book and borrowed courage

00:59:30 – The Message on the wall & the right to be angry

01:04:08 – The Wires are Crossed: Danger & Safety

01:20:15 – New vulnerability: saying the scary thing out loud

01:24:34 – There’s clinical language…then there’s conversational language

01:29:14 – Trauma becomes the goal

01:31:56 – The tool that dissolves arguments

01:35:10 – Kathleen’s tool on how to hear someone like it's the first time

01:37:35 – Words to take with you

If something in this episode resonated, it might be worth aconversation. Onsite offers intensive workshops near Nashville and San Diego for people navigating burnout, trauma, relationships, and addiction. One free call with their team can help you find the right fit. Visit experienceonsite.com or call 1-800-341-7432.

Have you ever been so buried in survival that you couldn't feel your own worth?

What if everything you survived was quietly shaping you into exactly the person someoneelse needs?

Kathleen Murphy, M.A., LMFT, LPC, is one of the most respected trauma clinicians in the field. Before that, she was homeless, addicted, and living on the streets with a one-year-old daughter — cycling through fourteen treatment programs before her life changed.

She opens up about her childhood trauma and how it stuck with her, growing up as "a sin" in her mother's eyes, and what it felt like to be "symbolically annihilated." She reveals how Viktor Frankl’s book, a newspaper found on the street, and a shelter bed that arrived two weeks instead of six months later changed everything — and how those experiences became the foundation for the way she teaches today. She goes deep on why our hearts are like music, how we tune each other back to the key of life, and what it really means to stop arguing with reality.

In this conversation, you'll learn:

• How to Find Your "Heart Home" and Why It Changes Everything
• How Suffering Becomes Your Greatest Gift to Others
• How to Stop Arguing With Reality and What Changes When You Do
• How to Tell the Difference Between a Boundary and Reaching Your Limit
• How Borrowing Someone's Eyes Dissolves Conflict Without Losing Your Voice
• How to Tune Your Heart Back to the Key of Life
• How to Help Someone Without Giving Advice How to Wake Up From a Trance of Unworthiness
• How to Hear Someone New Even If They've Told You the Same Thing Before
• How to Let Your Mess Become Your Message

Follow Human School:

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What We Discuss:

00:00:00 – Meet Kathleen Murphy

00:03:15 – Kathleen’s Onsite Story: a leap of faith and right timing

00:05:45 –Our hearts are more like music than machines

00:07:50 – A "heart home" and where you flourish

00:08:57 – The ocean, the storm, and the nature of the mind

00:10:30 – How to know if you're in wellness

00:13:00 – Who are you beyond your roles and your story?

00:22:04 –Learning to receive love

00:30:19 – Symbolic annihilation

00:32:55 – July 27th, 1983

00:35:21 – Standing in a courtroom at age six

00:39:25 – The moment love broke through on the streets

00:47:08 – Stepping into full surrender

00:55:13 – A book and borrowed courage

00:59:30 – The Message on the wall & the right to be angry

01:04:08 – The Wires are Crossed: Danger & Safety

01:20:15 – New vulnerability: saying the scary thing out loud

01:24:34 – There’s clinical language…then there’s conversational language

01:29:14 – Trauma becomes the goal

01:31:56 – The tool that dissolves arguments

01:35:10 – Kathleen’s tool on how to hear someone like it's the first time

01:37:35 – Words to take with you

With campuses near Nashville and San Diego, Onsite supportspeople navigating burnout, relationship strain, addiction, trauma, or the sense that life feels off. Learn more at experienceonsite.com or call 1-800-341-7432. A simple conversation can be the first step toward living more fully.

Have you ever carried a secret so heavy it started to collapse everything around you?

What if the most honest thing you ever did was also thebravest — and changed everyone watching?

Five-time Grammy winner Chandler Moore has led worship formillions, but behind the music was a story he hadn't told anyone. In this episode, Chandler opens up about childhood trauma, addiction, 40 days in inpatient treatment, and the therapeutic disclosure that changed his marriage and his life. He reveals how recovery is reshaping his new music, why safetywas his most important discovery, and how his biggest frustrations turned out to be his calling.

Chandler goes deep into trusting your own reality, holdingtwo opposing truths, and finally stopping the performance, and how being the first in his family to do this work is now rippling into his kids, friendships, and art.

In this conversation, you'll learn:

• How to Recognize That Safety Is the Foundation of AllHealing
• How to Find the Ember When You Feel Like the Fire Is Gone
• How Vulnerability Becomes a Gift Instead of a Performance
• How to Stop Testing the Waters and Start Telling Your Truth
• How Your Authenticity Has an Audience and How to Find It
• How "Playing to One" Helps You Connect WithThousands
• How to Debrief What You Consume So It Doesn't Consume You
• How Owning Your Story Changes the People Watching You
• How to Hold Two Opposite Truths at the Same Time
• How to Move From Inspiring People to Actually Impacting Them

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What We Discuss:

00:00:00 - Meet Chandler Moore

00:02:15 - Why This Podcast Felt Like the Right First Step

00:03:24 - Chandler's First Experience at Onsite

00:07:20 - There's Always More Truth Than You Think You'reReady to Tell

00:09:07 - Miles’s Treatment Journey and the Origin of HumanSchool

00:11:50 - How Recovery Transformed Chandler's CreativeProcess

00:15:00 - Being the First in His Family to Go to Therapy

00:19:33 - Finding Safe People

00:24:24 - The Mirror Moment

00:33:09 - Therapeutic Disclosure: The Moment Things Changed

00:36:15 - Embers: How to Find Your Fire When You FeelNothing

00:39:39 - Vulnerability Is Not for Sale

00:45:00 - Holding Two Things as True

00:49:09 - The Heartbeat of Faith

00:53:48 - How to Offload What You Consume Without BurningOut

01:01:36 - The Cycle of Touring Artists

01:07:38 - Mom's Letter

01:17:05 - Chandler’s New Project

01:19:42 - How Recovery Changed Chandler as a Father

01:34:09 - The Johnny Cash Approach to Connection

01:39:26 - Doubling: How Onsite Helped Reconstruct His Story

01:43:11 - Stand in Your Divinity

01:45:49 - The New Kind of Altar Call and Who It's ReallyFor

With campuses near Nashville and San Diego,Onsite supports people navigating burnout, relationship strain, addiction, trauma, or the sense that life feels off. Learn more at experienceonsite.com or call 1-800-341-7432. A simple conversation can be the first step toward livingmore fully.
What if the music you've been making your whole life was actually the therapy you never knew you needed?

What if chasing someone else's version of success is the very thing keeping you from discovering who you actually are?

Hunter Hayes has been on stages since he was a toddler. He earned Grammy nominations before most people have figured out what they want to do with their lives. He toured with Taylor Swift, scored radio hits, and built the kind of career that looks flawless from the outside. But behind all of it was a kid whofelt deeply lonely, who learned early that love and acceptance were things you earned by performing, and who spent years chasing a version of success that someone else had defined for him.

In this episode, Hunter goes into the emotional terrain behind his music: the relationship between performance and belonging, the cost of tying your identity to external validation from the time you're five years old, and what it feels like when early success levels off and you must decide who you are. Hereveals how years of therapy, intensive work, and learning to understand his brain finally gave him permission to stop performing his life and start participating in it. He shares the moment that songwriting stopped being about writing hits and became therapy set to a melody.

What makes this conversation unique is that Hunter and Miles don't just talk about the destination, they walk through the actual work. This is a conversation about what it looks like to come back to yourself after years of giving yourself away and how creativity, when it's rooted in honesty rather than performance, can become the most powerful tool for healing you've ever had.

In this conversation, you'll learn:

• How to Use Songwriting, Journaling, or Any Creative Outlet as a Form of Emotional Processing
• How to Rebuild Your Identity When Your Career Has Always Been Your Entire Senseof Self
• How to Redefine Success So the Numbers Stop Running Your Life
• How to Invite Your Inner Child Back Into Your Creative Process Instead of Locking Him Out
• How to Protect Your Energy on Social Media Without Disappearing
• How to Find the People in Your Life Who See You for Who You Are, Not Just What You Produce
• How to Use Structure, Checklists, and Consistency as Mental Health Tools
• How to Write About Where You Want to Be Before You've Arrived There
• How to Be Proud of Yourself Out Loud Even When the Road Looked Messy From the Outside

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What We Discuss:

00:00:00 Welcome to Human School00:02:30 Why Hunter Spent 10 Years Chasing Someone Else's Version of the Dream00:05:00 What's Different About Hunter Today00:06:35 How an Onsite Intensive Became a Turning Point00:08:28 The Music That Taught Hunter He Had Permission to Write With Hope00:12:55 Music at Two Years Old and a Career No One Planned00:34:07 The Move to Music City from Louisiana00:43:15 Songwriting Became His Version of Journaling00:46:58 The Loneliness That Hid Inside an Idealistic Childhood00:56:25 The Sentence That Shattered Him at 1501:02:40 Letting the Inner Child Back Into the Creative Work01:05:30 Transactional and Purely Relational Friendships01:16:12 Storm Warning, Dan Huff, and the Radio Tour That Changed Everything01:26:48 Navigating Life After the Biggest Season of Early Success01:32:50 Why He Started Talking Openly About Mental Health01:39:46 Learning to Fly and the Life Metaphors Hidden Inside Every Pre-Flight Checklist01:48:04 The New Project: Evergreen Season One01:53:40 How Hunter Manages Social Media Without Letting It Manage Him

Learn more about Onsite and Milestones at experienceonsite.com or call 1-800-341-7432. A simple conversation can be the first step toward living more fully.

What if the wounds you can't name are doing more damage than the ones you can?

What if healing doesn't happen in a sterile office, but around a campfire, in a community, or on a paddleboard?

Dr. Neil Bomar, Vice President of Medical Services at Milestones, is not your typical psychiatrist. He's a man who spent years trying to fit inside the box of Western medicine before realizing the box wasn't right for him. He traded the "treat 'em and street 'em" model of traditional medicine for a radically human approach to psychiatry. An approach that blends neuroscience, experiential therapy, and the healing power of nature and genuine connection.

In this conversation, Dr. Bomar opens up about his own "death day," the childhood moment that quietly rewired how he moved through the world. He shares what it was like to discover, well into his career, that his infectious enthusiasm and relentless positivity were, in part, a defense mechanism against pain. He goes deep into the surreal Thanksgiving when a bullet fell from the sky, struck him in the nose, and lodged in his cheek. And why, even then, his developmental wounding left the deeper mark.

Miles and Dr. Bomar explore the dangerous myth that you must choose between brokenness and resilience, the subtle harm of toxic positivity, and why leading with your highlight reel is the fastest way to kill real intimacy. They introduce frameworks like "death days," event trauma versus developmental wounding, and angel work, making complex psychological concepts feel like something you'd hear from a trusted friend.

In this conversation, you'll learn:

• How to Tell the Difference Between Event Trauma and Developmental Wounding 
• How to Stop Weaponizing Your Story and Start Letting It Work For You 
• How to Recognize Your "Death Day" 
• How Toxic Positivity Can Be Just as Damaging as Toxic Negativity 
• How Your Deepest Wound Is Often the Hidden Root of Your Greatest Strength 
• How to Identify the "Angels" in Your Story
• How to Know When You've Crossed from Doing the Work into Over-Identifying with Your Pain 
• How to Choose Being Relational Over Being Right in Every Room You Enter 
• How Community Heals What Therapy Alone Cannot

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What We Discuss:

00:00 Meet Dr. Neil Bomar 

00:04:35 Why Dr. Bomar Left Traditional Medicine Behind 

00:10:01 A Western Medicine Doctor Meets Experiential Therapy

00:11:27 The Family Intensive at Onsite That Changed Everything

00:13:40 What He Learned About Sadness Growing Up

00:14:40 "Happy Jack": The Public Man, the Private Reality, and the Weight of Both 

00:21:29 The "Goodness of Fit" Theory: Feeling Like an Outlier in Your Own Family

00:26:30 What Is Developmental Wounding?

00:27:30 "Death Day": The Childhood Moment That Quietly Rewires Your Identity 

00:29:49 A Bullet Fell From the Sky

00:33:00 Event Trauma vs. Developmental Wounding: Which One Is Actually Harder to Heal 

00:38:30 What Is Trauma, Really? Cutting Through the Expert Debate to What Actually Matters 

00:44:06 What He Heard It 25 Years Too Late 

00:48:57 Overcompensating From Insecurity

00:54:00 Angel Work: Identifying the People Who Saw You Before You Saw Yourself 

00:57:45 The Bravest Thing a Leader Can Say 

00:58:36 Leading With Your Highlight Reel vs. Your Failures

01:00:27 Over-Identifying With Your Illness: Where Healing Ends and Victimhood Begins 

01:05:35 Angel Work Healing That No Playbook Could Have Predicted 

01:09:07 What a Client Said About Milestones That Stopped Him Cold

01:19:09 A Question That Changes Everything - Being Right or Being Relational

01:25:51 What Miles & Dr. Bomar Into Now

01:29:58 Dr. Bomar's Parting Message to Listeners

With campuses near Nashville and San Diego, Onsite supports people navigating burnout, relationship strain, addiction, trauma, or the sense that life feels off. Learn more at experienceonsite.com or call 1-800-341-7432. A simple conversation can be the first step toward living more fully.

What if the discipline that made you a champion is the same thing quietly destroying your most important relationships?

What happens when two elite athletes stop chasing gold medals and start chasing something far more meaningful — each other, their kids, and a life that actually feels like home?

Shawn Johnson East is an Olympic gold medalist and one of the most decorated gymnasts in American history. Andrew East is a former NFL long snapper, entrepreneur, and now holds a doctorate in psychology. Together, they've built a marriage, a family of three young kids, businesses, and a media platform in full public view. But what stands out in this conversation is the radical honesty they bring to the parts of their story.

In this deeply personal conversation, Shawn opens up about the dark side of elite gymnastics — going professional at 12, being trained to go emotionally numb under pressure, and how that survival skill followed her into adulthood and marriage. She reveals her years-long battle with disordered eating and how retiring from gymnastics left her without an identity. Andrew shares the performance anxiety that blindsided him and how losing football forced a painful gift that ultimately shaped everything good that came next. He also opens up about losing his father, Guy East, and how his dad's relentless curiosity modeled the kind of partner and father he's worked hard to become.

We talk about what it means to protect a marriage when the odds are stacked against you, and why commitment, not chemistry alone, is the thing that makes it last. Shawn and Andrew also share more about their upcoming book, The Courage to Commit, and how the title is the foundation of how they live their lives.

In this conversation, you'll learn:

• How to Use Your Athletic Background to Build a Stronger Marriage 
• How Going Numb Under Pressure Creates Hardness at Home and What to Do About It 
• How to Navigate the Identity Crisis That Comes After Leaving a High-Performance Career 
• How to Recognize When Your Greatest Strength Has a Shadow Side That's Hurting the People You Love 
• How to Create Daily and Weekly Rhythms That Keep a Marriage Connected Without Over-Complicating It 
• How to Relearn How to Play, Fail, and Start Over After Reaching the Top of Your Craft
• How to Use Curiosity Instead of Criticism When You Don't Understand Your Partner 
• How to Commit Fully to Something and Discover That Sticking With It Creates Beauty You Could Never Have Planned

Welcome to Human School, where we learn what matters most - Miles Adcox

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What We Discuss:

00:00:00 Meet Shawn and Andrew East 

00:05:02 The Athletic Brain Meets Married Life 

00:08:34 The Special Forces Experience

00:10:21 Going Professional at 12

00:13:26 Two Different People Behind Closed Doors

00:15:15 The Debate That Started an Honest Marriage Conversation 

00:18:23 Andrew's Dad Taught Him About Curiosity

00:22:00 Having Each Other Changed What Was Possible 

00:27:52 Their Marriage Game Plan Day to Day

00:37:47 What Miles Learned Watching Thousands of Couples 

00:40:27 Having Kids Rewired Andrew's View of Optimization 

00:44:12 Depression, Eating Disorders, and Breaking the Cycle

00:51:27 The Career He Thought Would Last 15 Years 

00:56:18 How to Navigate a Major Life Transition

01:01:04 Miles's Two-Word Prayer That Got Him Through His Darkest Season 

01:03:32 What The East's Are Most Excited About Right Now

If this conversation resonated, Onsite & Milestones are safe places to land and process grief. Learn more at experienceonsite.com or call 1-800-341-7432. A simple conversation can be the first step toward living more fully.

Have you ever been hit by grief so hard that it knocked you off every foundation you thought you had?

What if grief isn't a problem to be solved, but an energy inside your body that's asking to be tended? And no one ever taught you how.

Meghan Riordan Jarvis is a trauma therapist, bestselling author of the memoir End of the Hour, and the host of Grief is My Side Hustle, a podcast that has helped thousands of people feel less alone in their loss. But what makes Meghan extraordinary isn't just her clinical expertise in trauma-informed care, EMDR, and body-centered healing; it's the fact that she fell completely apart after her mother died, and had the courage to seek help as a patient in the very world she had spent her career serving.

In this conversation, Meghan opens up about losing her mother six years ago and what it felt like to arrive at a treatment program as a clinician who "knew everything." She reveals the early childhood loss that shaped her, the fury that drove her to build something new, and how a morning walk with her Episcopal priest friend changed the way she practices daily. Watch in real time as Meghan does what she does best: shows up with compassion first, no fixes required.

Miles and Meghan also pull back the curtain on the Grief M.E.N.T.O.R. Method: Meghan's six-component framework that is rewriting how clinicians, companies, and everyday people understand and support loss. From the neuroscience of why your brain codes grief like a trauma folder, to why the five stages of grief were never meant for you, to why your body literally cannot trust itself to heal if you never go to the bathroom during the workday, this conversation is the grief education none of us ever got.

In this conversation, you'll learn:

• How to Understand What Grief Actually Is
• How to Recognize When Your Body Is Carrying Grief Before Your Mind Does 
• How to Stop White-Knuckling Through Hard Seasons Alone 
• How to Apply the Grief M.E.N.T.O.R. Method as a Daily Practice 
• How to Support a Grieving Person Without Saying the Wrong Thing 
• How to Tell the Difference Between Grief and Clinical Depression and Why It Matters

• How to Reframe the Story You're Telling About Your Loss 
• How to Move Anger and Energy Through Your Body Instead of Staying Stuck in It 
• How to Stop Looking Outside Yourself for the Answers

Welcome to Human School, where we learn what matters most - Miles Adcox

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What We Discuss:

00:00 Introduction

00:01:17 Meet Meghan Riordan Jarvis

00:02:35 It's Always About the Story: The Red Tabaco Barn

00:13:15 Grief Redefined

00:20:48 The Labyrinth at Onsite

00:27:10 Sacred Instincts and Knowing What You Need 

00:29:09 How Miles and Meghan Met

00:34:23 Meghan's Grief Origin Story & What Launched Her into This Career

00:43:26 Grief vs. Depression: Why Treating Them The Same Way is a Critical Mistake

00:45:44 A New Season of Grief - Life After Losing Her Mom

00:57:21 How Fury Became Rocket Fuel for the Grief M.E.N.T.O.R. Method 

01:02:10 Why Even the Experts Aren't Protected

01:07:04 What to Say to a Griever: Practical, Human Guidance 

01:12:02 The Neuroscience That Explains Everything 

01:16:41 Empathy vs. Compassion: Why the Distinction Matters and How It Changes Who You Become 

01:23:44 Meghan's Three-Step Framework

01:25:03 The Triangle of Trust

01:29:17 Mangled Spirituality, Morning Walks with a Priest, and Phone Alarms

01:36:21 What Happens When You Don't Address Grief

01:39:54 The Grief M.E.N.T.O.R. Method Explained 

01:54:09 Why Miles Changed What Onsite Calls Its Clinicians 

01:57:20 The Closing Message Neither of Them Planned 

If this conversation resonated, Onsite offers immersive therapeutic experiences to help you slow down, reconnect, and get honest about what matters most. With campuses near Nashville and San Diego, Onsite supports people navigating burnout, relationship strain, addiction, trauma, or the sense that life feels off. Learn more at experienceonsite.com or call 1-800-341-7432. A simple conversation can be the first step toward living more fully.

What happens when you stop performing your life and start living it?

What if the exhaustion you're feeling isn't a sign you're doing something wrong, but proof you're finally doing something real?

Mallory Ervin has lived much of her life in front of people—as Miss Kentucky, on The Amazing Race, as a creator who's built an expansive online community, and as the founder of brands like Living Fully and In My Sundays. But what makes her story compelling isn't the resume. It's what she's done underneath all of it. Instead of hardening or hiding, Mallory has softened. She's let her life shape her work, and she hasn't rushed past the hard seasons or cleaned them up before telling the truth.

In this conversation, Mallory opens up about the cost of being known, the weight of building businesses while raising young kids, and the moments that forced her to ask whether she was living fully or just filling her days. She talks about the difference between being busy and being present and why rest became the foundation of her most successful business. She reveals what it's like to rebuild your sense of self when the world already has an opinion about who you are.

This isn't a conversation about balance or having it all figured out. It's about what it takes to stay human in the middle of a life that moves fast, feels full, and demands more than you sometimes have to give.

In this conversation, you'll learn:

• How to stop living in the performance and start living in the presence
• How grief doesn't follow a timeline and why that's okay
• How motherhood forces you to confront who you really are
• How to build a business around rest when you've spent your life running
• How to navigate the gap between who you are in public and who you are at home
• How to stop waiting for permission to take up space
• How to let your life shape your work instead of the other way around
• How to stay soft in a world that rewards being hard
• How to honor the liminal space instead of rushing to the next thing
• How to stop apologizing for being human

Welcome to Human School, where we learn what matters most - Miles Adcox

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What We Discuss:

00:00:00 Intro - Welcome to Human School

00:00:17 Meet Mallory Ervin

00:02:02 Showing Up Tired and Grateful

00:05:19 Why Authenticity Became Non-Negotiable

00:07:32 Why Recovery Was the Greatest Gift of My Life

00:17:20 Rock Bottom, Surrender, and Radical Honesty

00:23:10 You Don’t Have to Hit Rock Bottom to Change Your Life

00:32:57 Distraction, Social Media, and Avoiding Yourself

00:41:15 When Help Turned Into Addiction: Mallory's Journey to Recovery

00:58:52 What Recovery Support Actually Looks Like

01:08:30 Earning a PhD in Yourself

01:13:38 The Temptation to Go Back to Old Patterns

01:18:58 What Recovery Taught Me About Daily Life

01:35:52 Defining What "Live Fully" Really Means in Life

01:40:33 The Balance in Being Driven to Excellence and Staying Present

01:43:44 Creating a Life Your Kids Can Learn From & Be a Part Of

01:55:33 The Entrepreneur: Live Fully & In My Sundays 

01:59:03 Closing Reflections on Authentic Living

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What if the worst moment of your life became the foundation for everything that came after?

Country music artist Drake White collapsed on stage in 2019 during a performance in Roanoke, Virginia. He was diagnosed with an AVM (arteriovenous malformation), a tangled mass of blood vessels in his brain that ruptured mid-song, paralyzing his left side. What could have ended his career and his life became the beginning of a deeper story about faith, resilience, and purpose.

In this conversation, Drake shares the surreal experience of having a stroke on stage and waking up in the hospital, unable to move half his body. He talks about how his wife duct-taped her leg to his and helped him relearn how to walk, only to face her own paralysis months later. He reflects on the moment a buck appeared on a trail camera behind his house and how that single image reignited his will to live. Drake goes into the basement of rock bottom, the power of covenant in marriage, and why listening to the quiet pull to “turn right instead of left” has reshaped how he lives.

This is a conversation about losing everything you thought made you who you are and discovering that rebuilding teaches you who you’ve always been.

In this conversation, you’ll learn:

• How to find purpose when everything that defined you is stripped away

• Why rock bottom has a basement and how foundations are built there

• How to turn trauma into testimony without skipping the pain

• How to navigate marriage when both partners are hurting

• How nature and hunting became part of Drake’s healing journey

• Why honoring bad days doesn’t cancel hope

• How to break free from negativity loops and victim narratives

• How to listen to the quiet pull guiding your next step

Welcome to Human School, where we learn what matters most—Miles Adcox

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What We Discuss:00:00:00 Intro - Welcome to Human School00:00:30 Drake White's Story: From Collapse to Comeback00:02:31 Rock Bottom Has a Basement: Building a Foundation in the Hole00:03:43 The Building Science Degree and Why Foundations Matter00:04:52 Getting Through Your Twenties Without Real Adversity00:10:40 Being in Her First Wedding: The Story of Pursuing Alex00:14:10 Diagnosed with an AVM: A Mass the Size of a Lime in His Brain00:16:21 August 16th, 2019: Taking the Stage in Roanoke, Virginia00:22:06 "I Thought I Had a Flat Tire, Not That the Engine Was Going Down"00:23:20 Exploration Over Fear: Surfing the Wave Psychologically00:25:19 The Deep Sleep Where He Had His Interaction with God00:26:22 Alex Drives Seven Hours: What Love Looks Like in Crisis00:28:43 Four Months Later: Alex's Paralysis in Steamboat Springs00:30:29 Calling for Help from Their Moms - "Nobody Loves You Like That"00:33:25 Relearning to Walk: The Thread of Hope Running Through It All00:35:39 Growing Up Baptist and Questioning Everything00:44:54 "The Ability to Have a Good Day in Bad Situations Is a Superpower"00:46:52 Taking a Right This Morning: Listening to the Pull00:51:02 Instinct, Intuition, Faith, and Self-Awareness00:53:03 Science and Religion Coexist: The Western Civilization Experiment01:00:05 "There's Always a Deeper Route" - Why Am I Here and Where Am I Going01:02:27 Coming Home After 40 Days and 40 Nights in the Hospital01:03:35 The Trail Camera Behind the House: A 175-Inch Deer01:12:11 Neuroplasticity: The Brain Forms New Pathways Around Lesions01:15:18 Make Your Trauma a Testimony for Somebody Else01:18:30 Ladder to the Sky: A Hunts the Healing Story01:21:38 Breaking the Negativity Loop, Blame Cycle, and Victim Narrative01:24:03 The Benefit for the Brain: A Night of Advocacy and Encouragement01:28:55 Be the Quarterback for Your Own Care