Writing and directing duo Ian and Eshom Nelms are brothers who tell stories through writing and directing movies.   Their 2020 film "Fatman," tells the story of what it might be like if Santa Claus had to live in the reality of the world, surviving and transcending some of it's less-jolly aspects while maintaining his position as a shaper and teacher of children. IT is a story of redemption, fear, love, violence, and healing.   They join the podcast to discuss where this idea came from and what they accomplished with it.   Enjoy, and Merry Holidays!   The full video recording of this interview is available to Patrons of the show who participate through www.patreon.com/brokenbrain. Join today at the Brainiac level to obtain cool bonus content and be involved in the show.