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In defence of marital secrets. Does intimacy have to go hand in hand with being a wide-open book? We have some thoughts (and some secrets). 

Plus, we have your weekend recommendations. Holly has a book that blew her mind. Jessie is pretending she watches things other than true crime docos and Em Vernem wants to tell you about something British and scary.

Also - what it’s really like to live without a phone, a story about an emergency and the truth about Em’s sickie… it’s best and worst.

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Jessie wants you to watch Disclaimer on Apple TV+

Holly wants you to read By Any Other Name by Jodi Picoult 

Em wants you to watch Sweet Pea on Binge 

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CREDITS:

Hosts: Holly Wainwright, Jessie Stephens & Em Vernem

Executive Producer: Ruth Devine

Senior Producer: Emeline Gazilas

Audio Production: Leah Porges

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