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April 20 How SINNERS Built Its Oscar-Winning Score
We’re celebrating the theatrical anniversary of SINNERS with a musical deep dive featuring executive music producer Serena Göransson. Alongside her creative partner Ludwig Göransson, the former violinist and concertmaster helped produce the film’s Oscar-winning score and soundtrack. Serena has collaborated with Ludwig on BLACK PANTHER, OPPENHEIMER, and the upcoming THE MANDALORIAN AND GROGU and THE ODYSSEY. On this episode of IN PROXIMITY, Serena joins host Paola Mardo to break down the role of an executive music producer – from pairing legend Bobby Rush with Delroy Lindo for Delta Slim’s harmonica performance, to shaping the film’s standout musical moments like the “I Lied to You” surreal montage and the “Rocky Road to Dublin” sequence with Jack O’Connell, Michael B. Jordan, Hailee Steinfeld, and more.
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(00:00) Production-wise, SINNERS is a musical!
(03:12) The past and future spirits in I LIED TO YOU
(04:47) Producing 30+ musical moments in SINNERS
(07:34) Building Ryan’s world as the Executive Music Producer
(09:19) Collaborating with music consultants
(13:37) Filming Delta Slim’s train station scene… with the legend, Bobby Rush!
(17:08) Breaking down ROCKY ROAD TO DUBLIN
(25:22) Connecting her Korean-Irish heritage with the film
(27:11) Voice Memo from Mary herself — Hailee Steinfeld!
(29:59) Prox Recs

IN PROXIMITY IS A PRODUCTION OF PROXIMITY MEDIA
Host, Director, Producer: Paola Mardo
Executive Producers: Ryan Coogler, Zinzi Coogler, Sev Ohanian
Theme Song and Additional Music: Ludwig Göransson
Co-Director and Director of Photography: Patrick Epino
Sound Designer and Mix Engineer: Ken Nana
Editors: Patrick Epino, Ken Nana, Ben Caloza
Associate Producer: Celine Mendiola
Production Coordinator: Joy Woo
Production Assistant: Devin Saddler
Production Intern: Ben Caloza
Social Media Coordinator: Alexandria Santana
Motion Graphics Designer: Apollo Baldoz
34 min
April 13 FROM THE ARCHIVES: The Art of the Pitch and Other Writing Tips with Juel Taylor, Tony Rettenmaier, and Sev Ohanian
Take another trip to the archives with Proximity founder and writer/producer Sev Ohanian’s conversation with screenwriting duo Juel Taylor and Tony Rettenmaier! Juel and Tony are the writers behind CREED II, SPACE JAM: A NEW LEGACY, and THEY CLONED TYRONE, which was also Juel’s directorial debut. Their next project is the upcoming HOT WHEELS movie, directed by Jon M. Chu and produced by Bad Robot. On this episode of IN PROXIMITY, Juel and Tony talk to Sev about the origins of their writing partnership, how they landed their first screenwriting projects, and the unconventional – and successful – pitching tips.
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Breaking into Screenwriting with Juel Taylor, Tony Rettenmaier, and Sev Ohanian
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(01:00) From the archives… Juel Taylor, Tony Rettenmaier, and Sev Ohanian!
(02:00) Get Reel
(08:21) Gym buddies to PAs to writing partners
(13:38) How Juel and Tony broke into the industry after grad school
(17:30) Their first professional screenwriting projects
(25:22) THEY CLONED TYRONE’s pitch: DIY crafts & Spotify playlists
(35:05) Coding websites and writing short stories for film execs
(43:22) Prox Recs

IN PROXIMITY IS A PRODUCTION OF PROXIMITY MEDIA
Host, Director, Producer: Paola Mardo
Executive Producers: Ryan Coogler, Zinzi Coogler, Sev Ohanian
Theme Song and Additional Music: Ludwig Göransson
Co-Director and Director of Photography: Patrick Epino
Sound Designer and Mix Engineer: Ken Nana
Editors: Patrick Epino, Ken Nana, Ben Caloza, Cedric Wilson, Judybelle Camangyan
Motion Graphics Designer: Apollo Baldoz
Producer: Caitlin Plummer
Associate Producer: Celine Mendiola
Production Coordinator: Joy Woo
Production Assistants: Isabella Miller, Polina Cherezova
Social Media Coordinator: Alexandria Santana
Production Intern: Ben Caloza
48 min
April 06 FROM THE ARCHIVES: Screenwriting Masterclass with Sev Ohanian and Aneesh Chaganty
We’re back in the archives with a re-release of one of our first episodes ever featuring writer, producer, and Proximity Media founder Sev Ohanian and writer/director Aneesh Chaganty. Together, Sev and Aneesh wrote, directed, and produced the hit thrillers SEARCHING (2018), RUN (2020), and MISSING (2023). Their next project together is the upcoming DOPPELGÄNGER, produced with their producing partner Natalie Qasabian at Search Party and Proximity Media. This episode is a deep dive into Sev and Aneesh’s intricate and informative screenwriting process. It’s a masterclass with top tier writing pros well as a peek into what makes a solid creative partnership.
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Screenwriting Masterclass with SEARCHING’s Aneesh Chaganty and Sev Ohanian
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(00:50) From the archives… Sev Ohanian and Aneesh Chaganty!
(02:37) Aneesh started his writing partnership with Sev… on a lie!?
(08:15) The “Blue Skies” phase of screenwriting
(11:44) Outlining: SAVE THE CAT, Google Docs, and phone call arguments
(14:53) Share your work with friends! (and ask a thousand questions)
(18:33) Research should inform your story, not BECOME the story
(21:41) Need a recap? Click HERE
(25:19) Prox Recs

IN PROXIMITY IS A PRODUCTION OF PROXIMITY MEDIA
Host, Director, Producer: Paola Mardo
Executive Producers: Ryan Coogler, Zinzi Coogler, Sev Ohanian
Theme Song and Additional Music: Ludwig Göransson
Co-Director and Director of Photography: Patrick Epino
Sound Designer and Mix Engineer: Ken Nana
Editors: Patrick Epino, Ken Nana, Ben Caloza, Cedric Wilson, Judybelle Camangyan
Motion Graphics Designer: Apollo Baldoz
Producer: Caitlin Plummer
Associate Producer: Celine Mendiola
Production Coordinator: Joy Woo
Production Assistants: Isabella Miller, Polina Cherezova
Social Media Coordinator: Alexandria Santana
Production Intern: Ben Caloza
29 min
March 30 FROM THE ARCHIVES: Cord Jefferson and Ryan Coogler on Writing, Directing, AMERICAN FICTION, and SINNERS (sort of)
We’re going back into the IN PROXIMITY archives for the next several weeks, rereleasing masterclasses on filmmaking and screenwriting. On this episode, we’re rebroadcasting a conversation between Ryan Coogler and Cord Jefferson, writer/director/producer of the award-winning feature film AMERICAN FICTION. A few weeks after winning the 2024 Academy Award for Best Adapted Screenplay, Cord hopped on a call with Ryan to discuss their first films, his unconventional path to filmmaking, and his experience as a first-time director. They also talk about their upcoming projects, and Ryan teases a little bit about SINNERS. He recorded this conversation from New Orleans as he was just about to go into production on the film.
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Cord Jefferson and Ryan Coogler on Writing, Directing, and What They’re Doing Next
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(01:45) From the archives… Ryan Coogler and Cord Jefferson!
(02:30) Get Reel
(10:46) Cord’s first writing job took GUTS
(19:28) How Cord learned to collaborate with Jeffrey Wright on AMERICAN FICTION
(27:58) Ryan and Cord’s next projects (hint: SINNERS)
(35:48) “You shouldn’t be doing this if the end goal is to win an Oscar.”
(39:49) Prox Recs

IN PROXIMITY IS A PRODUCTION OF PROXIMITY MEDIA
Host, Director, Producer: Paola Mardo
Executive Producers: Ryan Coogler, Zinzi Coogler, Sev Ohanian
Theme Song and Additional Music: Ludwig Göransson
Co-Director and Director of Photography: Patrick Epino
Sound Designer and Mix Engineer: Ken Nana
Editors: Patrick Epino, Ken Nana, Ben Caloza, Cedric Wilson, Judybelle Camangyan
Motion Graphics Designer: Apollo Baldoz
Producer: Caitlin Plummer
Associate Producer: Celine Mendiola
Production Coordinator: Joy Woo
Production Assistants: Isabella Miller, Polina Cherezova
Social Media Coordinator: Alexandria Santana
Production Intern: Ben Caloza
45 min
March 23 INSIDE PROXIMITY: Meet (and Learn from!) our Nonfiction Team
We’re celebrating docs and nonfiction series with Proximity’s Nonfiction department! IN PROXIMITY host Paola Mardo sits down with Kelli Dunson Buchanan (VP, Head of Nonfiction) and Gaby Arvizu (Creative Executive, Nonfiction), whose projects include the award-winning series HURRICANE KATRINA: RACE AGAINST TIME, STEPHEN CURRY: UNDERRATED, ANTHEM, and HOMEROOM. They share their career stories and what their day-to-day is like developing and producing nonfiction projects at Proximity Media. They also answer listener questions about selecting stories and subjects, editing hours of footage, advice for first-time filmmakers, and how to ethically document stories and engage with communities around traumatic events. Kelli and Gaby drop a lot of gems here… watch, listen, and take notes!
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Inside Proximity: Working in Film & TV
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(00:00) These questions are FIRE!
(02:18) Meet Proximity’s Nonfiction department
(05:18) The day-to-day of development and production
(10:55) Career stories
(17:10) Question #1: How to choose your doc’s subject
(19:52) Shoutout director Pete Nicks!
(20:46) Making HURRICANE KATRINA: RACE AGAINST TIME with Traci Curry
(22:45) Question #2: How to ethically document stories and engage with communities around traumatic events
(27:57) Question #3: Tips for first-time filmmakers
(30:07) What makes first-time doc filmmakers stand out
(32:16) How Kelli and Gaby find and cultivate new talent
(33:11) Question #4: Editing hours of footage into a film|
(37:40) What is cinéma vérité?
(39:21) Prox Recs
IN PROXIMITY IS A PRODUCTION OF PROXIMITY MEDIA
Host, Director, Producer: Paola Mardo
Executive Producers: Ryan Coogler, Zinzi Coogler, Sev Ohanian
Theme Song and Additional Music: Ludwig Göransson
Co-Director and Director of Photography: Patrick Epino
Sound Designer and Mix Engineer: Ken Nana
Editors: Patrick Epino, A.J. Calomay, Ken Nana, Ben Caloza
Motion Graphics Designer: Apollo Baldoz
Associate Producer: Celine Mendiola
Production Coordinator: Joy Woo
Social Media Coordinator: Alexandria Santana
Production Intern: Ben Caloza
44 min
March 16 BEST OF SINNERS with Academy Award winners Ryan Coogler, Autumn Durald Arkapaw, Ludwig Göransson, Michael B. Jordan, and more | PROX GEMS!
For this special episode of IN PROXIMITY, we’re celebrating the artisans who brought SINNERS to life. Relive the insightful conversations with Academy Award winners Ryan Coogler, Michael B. Jordan, Autumn Durald Arkapaw, and Ludwig Göransson, and more.
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AUTUMN DURALD ARKAPAW AND RYAN COOGLER
DOLLY LI
STEVE GEHRKE
LUDWIG GÖRANSSON AND RYAN COOGLER
MICHAEL B. JORDAN AND RYAN COOGLER
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(00:00) Celebrating SINNERS!
(01:41) IMAX filmmaking with Autumn Durald Arkapaw and Ryan Coogler
(07:23) Delta Chinese history with Dolly Li
(11:04) Script supervisor conversation with Steve Gherke
(14:38) Blues music with Ludwig Göransson and Ryan Coogler
(18:53) Acting with Michael B. Jordan and Ryan Coogler

IN PROXIMITY IS A PRODUCTION OF PROXIMITY MEDIA
Host, Director, Producer: Paola Mardo
Executive Producers: Ryan Coogler, Zinzi Coogler, Sev Ohanian
Theme Song and Additional Music: Ludwig Göransson
Co-Director and Director of Photography: Patrick Epino
Sound Designer and Mix Engineer: Ken Nana
Editors: Patrick Epino, Ken Nana, Ben Caloza, A.J. Calomay, Brittani Brown, Andrea Walter, Bianca Catbagan
Video Producer: Bianca Catbagan
Director of Photography: Andrea Walter
Associate Producer: Celine Mendiola
Production Coordinator: Joy Woo
Camera Operator: Josh Ortiz
Production Sound Recordists: Mark Patino, Marcelo de Oliveira
Gaffer: Chris Boulos
Key Grip: Kevin “Chui” Chiu
Production Assistants: Devin Saddler, Isabella Miller
Production Interns: Ben Caloza, Jun Sawada, Faith Wang
Social Media Coordinator: Alexandria Santana
Motion Graphics Designer: Apollo Baldoz
Barista: George Stevenson
26 min
March 09 How to Make an Oscar-Winning Short Film with Luke Matheny
Luke Matheny is a writer, director, and showrunner who won the Academy Award for Best Live-Action Short Film in 2010 for GOD OF LOVE. Luke sat down with IN PROXIMITY host Paola Mardo to talk about what makes an Oscar-winning short film, how he prepared for his speech, and how he built a career in comedy and children’s programming writing, directing, and running shows like MARON, GORTIMER GIBBON’S LIFE ON NORMAL STREET, and, most recently, the animated series CHARLOTTE’S WEB on HBO Max starring Amy Adams, Elijah Wood, Jean Smart, and Randall Park.

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GOD OF LOVE
AWESOME ASIAN BAD GUYS
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(00:00) Guest intro
(02:21) About GOD OF LOVE
(04:59) The Oscar trophy — live in the studio!
(06:42) Winning an Oscar
(10:05) Making GOD OF LOVE at NYU film school
(12:10) Using a short film to showcase your talents
(16:20) Working with the crew to execute your vision
(18:51) What makes a great short film? Imply a sense of structure!
(23:54) Remember: time is finite!
(28:11) Launching a career after the Oscars, working with Marc Maron
(32:13) Showrunning the animated series CHARLOTTE’S WEB
(33:10) The cast: Amy Adams, Jean Smart, Elijah Wood, Cynthia Erivo, Randall Park
(37:28) Children’s programming
(39:05) Make something, keep going!
(41:49) Prox Recs
IN PROXIMITY IS A PRODUCTION OF PROXIMITY MEDIA
Host, Director, Producer: Paola Mardo
Executive Producers: Ryan Coogler, Zinzi Coogler, Sev Ohanian
Theme Song and Additional Music: Ludwig Göransson
Co-Director and Director of Photography: Patrick Epino
Sound Designer and Mix Engineer: Ken Nana
Editors: Patrick Epino, Ken Nana, Ben Caloza
Motion Graphics Designer: Apollo Baldoz
Associate Producer: Celine Mendiola
Production Coordinator: Joy Woo
Social Media Coordinator: Alexandria Santana
Production Intern: Ben Caloza
45 min
March 02 Directing GOAT, Animation, and Dreaming Big with Tyree Dillihay
Before his debut animated feature GOAT claimed the #1 spot at the box office, director Tyree Dilihay joined IN PROXIMITY host Paola Mardo for an in-depth conversation about the animated sports film. Tyree breaks down his directing process including building the film’s “Brooklyn meets Brazil” world, designing roarball plays with basketball stars Andre Iguodala and Stephen Curry, and working with an all-star cast that includes Caleb McLaughlin, Gabrielle Union, Jenifer Lewis, and Curry (who makes his voice acting debut in the film and produces through Unanimous Media). Tyree also reflects on growing up in Inglewood, California where he was inspired by filmmakers like Spike Lee and John Singleton, and how his supportive mother helped him pursue a career in animation.
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(00:00) Running plays with Andre Igoudala
(02:49) Stephen Curry’s voice acting debut
(04:22) How GOAT came together
(07:12) Worldbuilding “Brooklyn meets Brazil”
(10:31) Costume design
(12:04) From local Angeleno to seasoned animator
(14:22) Spike Lee’s SHE’S GOTTA HAVE IT and John Singleton’s BOYZ N THE HOOD
(16:03) How Tyree started his animation journey
(19:20) Running plays with Andre Igoudala (full story)
(22:20) “Roots run deep!”
(25:05) The inspo: SPACE JAM I & II, HOOSIERS, MAJOR LEAGUE, MIGHTY DUCKS, ROCKY, RUDY…and more!
(28:48) The cast: Caleb McLaughlin, Gabrielle Union, Jenifer Lewis, Steph Curry
(30:54) Creating and directing diss tracks, “GOAT TEARS”
(33:31) The seven-year journey to the “right version”
(35:44) Collaborating with studio execs to make the best movie
(38:08) Prox Recs

IN PROXIMITY IS A PRODUCTION OF PROXIMITY MEDIA
Host, Director, Producer: Paola Mardo
Executive Producers: Ryan Coogler, Zinzi Coogler, Sev Ohanian
Theme Song and Additional Music: Ludwig Göransson
Co-Director and Director of Photography: Patrick Epino
Sound Designer and Mix Engineer: Ken Nana
Editors: Patrick Epino, Ken Nana, Ben Caloza
Motion Graphics Designer: Apollo Baldoz
Associate Producer: Celine Mendiola
Production Coordinator: Joy Woo
Social Media Coordinator: Alexandria Santana
Production Intern: Ben Caloza
41 min
February 23 Maggie Gyllenhaal and Ryan Coogler: Writing, Directing, and IMAX
Here comes the THE BRIDE writer/director/producer Maggie Gyllenhaal, who joins SINNERS writer/director/producer and Proximity founder Ryan Coogler, for an exclusive conversation with IN PROXIMITY host Paola Mardo about her new film THE BRIDE, a wildly original and imaginative take on the Frankenstein story, inspired by the 1935 film THE BRIDE OF FRANKENSTEIN and Mary Shelley’s original novel. Maggie and Ryan share their processes for writing and directing, working with actors, shooting on IMAX cameras, and working with family. And, yes, Ryan makes some coffee. Cheers!
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(00:00) Christian Bale wants to be yelled at too!
(00:32) Here comes the director of THE BRIDE!
(02:37) Ryan makes pour-over coffee
(05:40) Nighttime inside
(08:08) Cheers!
(08:57) Exploring the monsters within
(09:53) The original films: THE BRIDE OF FRANKESTEIN and FRANKENSTEIN
(12:47) Creating Jessie Buckley’s character, the Bride
(14:30) Screenwriting is like an hourglass
(15:47) Monstrosity vs. Cinematic fantasy
(17:14) Jake Gyllenhaal as Ronnie Reed
(17:52) How Maggie and Ryan work with actors
(22:45) Trippy directorial advice
(26:10) Octavia Spencer in FRUITVALE STATION
(28:15) Christian Bale wants to be yelled at too! (full story)
(31:44) Directing her brother Jake
(35:47) IMAX filmmaking
(38:18) Sony cameras
(40:56) "Wait, you were in THE DARK KNIGHT, though!"
(48:00) Prox Recs

IN PROXIMITY IS A PRODUCTION OF PROXIMITY MEDIA
Host, Director, Producer: Paola Mardo
Executive Producers: Ryan Coogler, Zinzi Coogler, Sev Ohanian
Theme Song and Additional Music: Ludwig Göransson
Co-Director and Director of Photography: Patrick Epino
Sound Designer and Mix Engineer: Ken Nana
Editors: Patrick Epino, Ken Nana, Ben Caloza
Production Sound Mixer: Mark Patino
Camera Operator: Josh Ortiz
Associate Producer: Celine Mendiola
Production Coordinator: Joy Woo
Production Intern: Ben Caloza
Social Media Coordinator: Alexandria Santana
Motion Graphics Designer: Apollo Baldoz
Barista: George Stevenson
52 min
February 16 Writing and Directing KPOP DEMON HUNTERS
We are sealing the Honmoon with KPOP DEMON HUNTERS directors and co-writers, Maggie Kang and Chris Appelhans! The veteran animation filmmakers break down how Maggie developed the story based on Korean culture and music, how she collaborated with Chris as a directing team, and how they pitched the idea to Netflix and K-pop music producers. They also share stories from behind the scenes of their seven-year production process including the creation of the film’s iconic “popcorn eyes” and how they worked with songwriter and producer EJAE to write the music… with a special surprise voice memo from the woman behind Rumi’s singing voice herself!
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(00:00) K-pop meets demon hunters
(00:47) Let’s talk K-pop… and demon hunters!
(02:04) Fun fan reactions
(03:02) Honmoon in the club, the origin of honmoon
(06:12) How Maggie’s Korean upbringing in Toronto shaped her storytelling
(07:51) K-pop meets demon hunters (the full story)
(09:59) How they became a directing team, WISH DRAGON
(11:19) How they pitched KPOP DEMON HUNTERS
(12:45) The music was the hardest part, how EJAE’s demos made it seem possible
(13:20)EJAE, Teddy Park, THEBLACKLABEL, the demo for HOW IT’S DONE
(15:23) Comps: “old people” anime, Cowboy Bebop, Sailor Moon, K-dramas, and GUARDIANS OF THE GALAXY
(17:10) Comedy, female empowerment, being your “stupidest self” with your friends
(18:04) Collaborating on directing and screenwriting
(19:53) Writing the script for KPOP DEMON HUNTERS
(20:39) Sony Pictures Animation, shout out to the crew
(25:00) The joke that became the iconic “popcorn eyes” scene
(27:12) Voice Memo from EJAE (Musician, Songwriter, Producer, Singing Voice of Rumi)
(29:45) Prox Recs
IN PROXIMITY IS A PRODUCTION OF PROXIMITY MEDIA
Host, Director, Producer: Paola Mardo
Executive Producers: Ryan Coogler, Zinzi Coogler, Sev Ohanian
Theme Song and Additional Music: Ludwig Göransson
Co-Director and Director of Photography: Patrick Epino
Sound Designer and Mix Engineer: Ken Nana
Editors: Patrick Epino, Ken Nana, Ben Caloza
Sound Recordist: Isabella Miller
Motion Graphics Designer: Apollo Baldoz
Associate Producer: Celine Mendiola
Social Media Coordinator: Alexandria Santana
Production Intern: Ben Caloza
34 min

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IN PROXIMITY is a podcast about craft, career, and creativity from Proximity Media, the production company that helped bring you SINNERS, CREED III, JUDAS AND THE BLACK MESSIAH, SPACE JAM: A NEW…