This episode was recorded before Border Patrol agents shot and killed Twin Cities nurse Alex Pretti.

What happens when the people enforcing the law no longer seem bound by it? Our contributor Elise Labott reports on ICE’s expansive recruitment campaign and training program. Sharon is then joined by MN Representative Angie Craig to discuss the escalating situation in Minnesota and what Congress may, or may not, do in response. Plus, do ICE agents have absolute immunity, as JD Vance claims? Our guest, former DOJ attorney Liz Oyer says absolutely not. 

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Credits:

Host and Executive Producer: Sharon McMahon

Supervising Producer: Melanie Buck Parks

Audio Producer: Craig Thompson

(00:00:00) What’s Drawing Recruits to ICE?

(00:15:52) What is Congress Doing About ICE?

(00:31:18) Do ICE Agents Have Absolute Immunity?