A Little Help For Our Friends

Interview with Marcus Rodriguez: Recovering from chronic invalidation


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One of the biggest puzzles is why some people carry so much anger, pain, depression, or anxiety even though they haven't experienced a "real trauma." This might be a sign of chronic invalidation, when someone received consistent messages that their emotions aren't valid when they're growing up. Chronic invalidation can infect early caregiving environments and can have devastating impacts on mental health in adulthood. In this episode, we talk with Dr. Marcus Rodriguez, associate professor of Pitzer College, Director of the Global Mental Health Lab and founder of the Youth and Family Institute (not to mention, our "lab brother" from Duke). Dr. Rodriguez describes what chronic invalidation looks like and how it can be treated with evidence-based therapies. 

  • To learn more about Dr. Rodriguez's clinical services for family and adolescents, check out his Youth & Family Institute
  • To learn more about clinical trainings with Dr. Rodriguez, check out his training services

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