Interesting Times with Ross Douthat

Is Anything Holding MAGA Together?


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After Charlie Kirk’s assassination, conspiracy theories and divisions multiplied on the right. On this episode of “Interesting Times,” Ross talks to Andrew Kolvet, a Turning Point USA spokesperson and executive producer of “The Charlie Kirk Show,” about what happens to a movement when its charismatic leader is gone, what it’s like to be the target of conspiracy theories, and whether there are any issues unifying conservatism now.

  • 01:32 - Andrew’s friendship with Charlie Kirk
  • 05:18 - Turning Point U.S.A.’s activism and impact
  • 11:16 - Charlie Kirk’s assassination and its aftermath
  • 18:42 - The divisions on the right start with conspiracy theories 
  • 38:28 - “Can the right hold together on Israel?”
  • 41:19 - Stress-testing the cohesion on the right
  • 56:08 - The Erika Kirk/Trump contrast

(A full transcript of this episode is available on the Times website.)

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