Interesting Times with Ross Douthat

Is the G.O.P. Governable?

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Now that Kevin McCarthy is no longer speaker, who’s in charge of the Republicans, and is this overthrow what voters actually want?

Today on “Matter of Opinion,” the hosts discuss the future of a deeply divided G.O.P. and debate what it means to be a Republican now. Plus, an argument for revisiting an elementary-school classic.

(A transcript of this episode can be found at the top of the episode page on the Times website.)

Mentioned in this episode:

  • “What Explains Educational Polarization Among White Voters?” by William Marble
  • “Neither Party Well-Liked, but G.O.P. Holds Advantage on Issues” Gallup polling

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