Jane and Fi are off to a book launch tonight... but Fi is less than thrilled about the prospect of sharing a taxi with Jane, who has been consuming lentils "well known for their wind manufacturing properties."

Before that, they talk teaching, whether they're descended from royalty, and the bloodline of Fi's cat.

They're joined by Bake Off winner John Whaite and they discuss his new memoir Dancing On Eggshells.

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