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"Healing is possible, but time alone won't heal trauma – emotional work does." This powerful insight frames our conversation with Jackie, who brings 28 years of sobriety and hard-won wisdom to the discussion of trauma recovery.

What happens when you've maintained your sobriety but still feel emotionally broken? Jackie illuminates the path many recovery journeys follow: first comes the "grace period" where simply being sober feels miraculous, followed by the inevitable surfacing of underlying trauma that originally drove the addiction. As she explains, "All of the reasons that we escaped reality are going to surface because we haven't healed any of them."

The conversation takes unexpected turns through lighthearted french fry preferences before diving deep into why facing our past is essential for true freedom. Jackie shares her journey through multiple 12-step programs, therapy, and internal family systems work, explaining how each step brought different pieces of healing. Her explanation of how childhood trauma creates protective "parts" that continue running our adult lives offers a profound framework for understanding seemingly irrational behaviors and reactions.

Most compelling is Jackie's perspective on generational healing. "In my family, I am probably the first person willing to look at any of it," she shares, illuminating how our willingness to heal stops patterns that might otherwise continue for generations. Her sister and mother's contrasting approaches to emotional pain demonstrate that while not everyone chooses healing, those who do create ripple effects of transformation.

Whether you're in recovery, supporting someone who is, or simply interested in emotional health, this episode offers compassionate insights about the courage it takes to heal. As Jackie reminds us, "Pay attention to what life is trying to get your attention on, because life is talking to you all the time." Let this conversation be one of those signs pointing toward your own healing journey.

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