This week I’m chatting to a woman who is the very definition of a Bestseller. Jodi Picoult has written 24 global smash hits (including A Spark of Light and Small Great Things) all with her inimitable mix of hard hitting issues and intimate personal stories, and her last eight novels have debuted at No 1 in the New York Times bestseller list.

Her new novel, The Book of Two Ways, is a page turning exploration of life, death, grief and the biggest question of all - what would our lives look like if we’d taken a different path? Who doesn’t wonder that sometimes/often/all the time?* (*delete as applicable!)? Over a cup of coffee as big as her head, Jodi shares her own ‘what if’ moment, why covid-19 makes her fear for women’s position in society and why she’s angrier than ever. Put it this way she’s a fierce defender of women’s rights and an outspoken critic of Donald Trump…! 

(Jodi was sitting in her attic on America's East coast so apologies in advance if the transatlantic quality is occasionally a bit shonky.)

The Shift (on life after 40) with Sam Baker is hosted by Sam Baker, produced by Emily Sandford. I’d love to hear what you think - please let me know on twitter @sambaker or instagram @theothersambaker

• The Shift - How I (lost and) found myself after 40 - and you can too is out now in hardback and available to buy here.

• The Book of Two Ways by Jodi Picoult is out now in hardback and available to buy here.

Jodi's book recommendation: Beach Read by Emily Henry is available to buy in paperback.

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