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Journalist and best-selling author, Julia Baird opens up about grace and how you can’t see it until it happens. How people look after people, love those who may seem unlovable and how being kinder can change everything. 

Mia and Julia speak about nurses, killers and the surprising places grace can be found.

Julia tackles complex topics with clarity, passion and depth and she’s done just that with grace at even the darkest of times of her own life. 

She has released a new book called Bright Shining and it’s all about recognising grace.  

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Julia Baird did another No Filer, which you can listen to here. She spoke about when her life took an unexpected twist and led her to write Phosphorescence: On Awe And Wonder And Things That Sustain You When The World Goes Dark and it's an incredibly uplifting book all about the ways in which Julia found the light in life again and again and again.

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Host: Mia Freedman. You can find Mia on Instagram here and get her newsletter here.

Executive Producer: Kimberley Braddish 

Audio Producer: Madeline Joannou

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