In this episode I chat with my dear friend William Hahn. A builder and surfer, you'll be hard pressed to find a dude with a wider smile--except maybe on the day he got arrested for burning some herb in the lot before going out to surf. Or the time he was 12, paddled out & got accosted by someone who's name rhymes with Tim Holdberg. Sheesh, all he did was kook it a little bit. Other than those two days, I'm pretty sure that smile is plastered on permanently, as will yours after this episode. Yew!

In this episode Coach Chris sits down with surf student Johan Kugelberg to listen (and sometimes drift off) while Johan runs away with the show. Typically in surf coaching sessions, Chris is accustomed to being the expert while Johan plays the very studious pupil. But when sitting down to talk otherwise, its clear the tables have turned. In a setting of conversation and thoughtful discussion, Johan is the expert of eloquence, & your host is the kook without words.