This week Brian and Harrison kick things off with some footy chat; BT gives his thoughts on why state of origin footy has never worked in the AFL and how we can make it work and then Harrison quizzes BT on what Mad Mondays were like in the 80s. Brian then shares a scary story about how he almost lost his life in a Scooba diving incident before finally working through some mailbag submissions.

Later, the boys are joined by 3x Olympic Gold Medallist, Grant Hackett. Grant is one of the greatest distance swimmers in history and for many years was the undisputed King of the 1500m Freestyle having gone unbeaten in the discipline through 11 years of competition. He won 26x Gold Medals combined at the Olympic Games, Commonwealth Games & World Championships and broke 16x world records. He has also received prestigious honors such as the Order of Australia, Centenary Medal, The Don Award, Australian Sports Medal, and membership within the Sports Australia Hall of Fame and International Swimming Hall of Fame.

The conversation goes deep on; the pressure of performing and adapting to challenges, mindset around goal setting and winning and losing, finding balance between focused intensity and finding joy in the process, the determination and attention to detail required to be the best and his relationship with greats of the sports such as Michael Phelps and Ian Thorpe , plus much, much more.

With an educational background in business administration, business law and financial services, Grant is now the CEO of Generation Life, an Australia-based, publicly listed investment firm managing more than $1.3 billion. More importantly than his role at Gen. Life, Grant is a proud husband and father and all-round top bloke. We thank Grant for his time.

This episode is brought to by Hard Cuddles.

Hosts: Brian & Harrison Taylor

Guest: Grant Hackett

Produced by Harrison Taylor

Audio & Video by Rhino Productions

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