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This week, we’re joined by Liz Anthony, Chief of Staff at Halfdays, the fast-growing women’s outdoor apparel brand redefining performance skiwear. Liz breaks down how Halfdays balances brand and performance marketing to scale a highly seasonal DTC business, including the role of founder-led content, creative diversity, and standout collaborations like HOKA in driving Q4 momentum.

From there, the group digs into how the Chief of Staff role acts as a force multiplier across marketing, product, and strategy - pulling from Liz’s consulting background to explore how strong operators create leverage in fast-moving brands.

We wrap with a collaborative discussion on KPI ownership, dashboards, and forecasting, covering how teams use simple tools like Google Sheets to track leading indicators, align cross-functional teams, and connect marketing execution to real business outcomes.

If you’re scaling a seasonal brand, building cross-functional clarity, or trying to connect brand moments to measurable growth, this episode is packed with practical insight.

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Find out more about the Halfdays brand in another MOperators Episode: 

How Halfdays Turned Community into a Growth Engine - with CEO Ariana Ferwerda

Chapters:

00:00:00 – Introducing Liz and Halfdays’ Brand Story

00:03:10 – Finding Product-Market Fit in Women’s Ski Wear

00:08:00 – Expanding Beyond Ski: Year-Round and Omnichannel Growth

00:13:30 – Defining “Her”: Core Customer, Persona, and Positioning

00:19:00 – Chief of Staff Role: KPIs, Strategy, and Cross-Functional Glue

00:24:10 – Liz’s Operator Background and Translating Consulting Skills to DTC

00:30:20 – Building the Team, Ownership Culture, and Management Style

00:36:20 – Q4 and Black Friday: Hoka Collab, List Growth, and Demand

00:44:30 – Content Engine, Community, and Always-On Brand Marketing

00:52:30 – Channel Mix, Out-of-Home Bets, and Retargeting Strategy

01:01:00 – 2026 Roadmap: New Franchises, Launch “Moments,” and Playbooks

01:11:30 – Data Stack, KPIs, and Using Analytics to Drive Decisions

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This week, we’re joined by Lily Comba, Founder & CEO of Superbloom, who opens up about how she got her start in influencer marketing and why she approaches influencer through a performance lens. Lily shares her journey from building in-house programs to launching Superbloom, and what she learned scaling influencer across some of the most recognizable consumer brands.

From there, we go deep on measurement, attribution, and negotiations. Lily breaks down how to think about ROAS, CPA, multipliers, and code leakage, along with how she models performance upfront to negotiate smarter creator deals and build paid usage rights and whitelisting into every partnership. We talk through practical frameworks for forecasting results, setting realistic KPIs, and holding influencer partnerships accountable without burning relationships.

We also dive into YouTube and channel expansion, including why YouTube is one of the most underrated influencer channels, how to negotiate effective integrations, and what longer-form creator content unlocks for both performance and brand lift. We wrap with how influencer fits into the broader media mix, common mistakes brands make when launching programs, and what operators should be focused on if they want to scale influencer the right way.

If you’re trying to make influencer more measurable, negotiate better deals, and turn creator content into high-performing paid media, you’re gonna love this one.

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Chapters:

00:00:00 – Scaling Influencer Spend and Proving ROI

00:03:53 – Lily’s Background and Building Super Bloom

00:08:45 – From Seed Health to Launching an Agency

00:13:05 – Brands, Categories, and Who Influencer Marketing Works For

00:14:03 – Performance-First Influencer Programs and Service SKUs

00:19:31 – Organic Influencer KPIs vs Paid Performance Metrics

00:22:01 – Full-Funnel Impact, Halo Effects, and AOV Considerations

00:25:16 – Discount Code Leakage and Attribution Challenges

00:30:13 – Using Multipliers to Translate Influencer Performance

00:34:38 – Modeling ROAS, Click-Through Rates, and Incrementality

00:41:31 – Awareness vs Performance Across Different Brand Types

00:47:19 – Influencer Negotiation Frameworks and Deal Structuring

00:52:47 – High-AOV Products, Long Consideration Cycles, and Measurement Limits

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This week, the team breaks down what recent platform moves signal for operators heading into 2026 — starting with Shopify’s Winter Editions and the growing role of Sidekick inside the Shopify ecosystem.

They discuss how tools like Sidekick are democratizing data access, reducing operational friction, and changing how lean growth teams analyze performance, build reports, and take action inside the admin.

From there, the conversation shifts to BFCM performance and incrementality, with the hosts unpacking what they learned from scaling spend in steps during peak periods. They discuss where incremental gains showed up, where marginal returns began to flatten, and why short testing windows can still offer directional insight even when results are noisy.

The team then reacts to and unpacks a tweet about Amazon bidding more aggressively on brand terms, using it as a jumping-off point to explore demand capture during promo periods, brand search strategy, and how branded demand is distributed across Amazon and DTC during high-intent moments.

Throughout the episode, a key theme emerges: how operators should interpret signals from major platforms and translate them into proactive strategy rather than reactive tactics.

The episode wraps with a candid conversation on 2026 planning, including examples like Connor Rolain’s pyramid-style goal-setting framework, org design considerations, and how growth leaders can balance short-term execution with long-term thinking.

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Chapters

00:00:00 – Shopify Winter Editions and the Rise of Sidekick

00:06:46 – Data Democratization and AI Inside Shopify

00:14:34 – Shopify Collective and Cross-Brand Merchandising

00:19:03 – Black Friday Scaling Tests and Marginal ROAS

00:27:27 – Brand Search Incrementality and Paid Search Myths

00:32:14 – Amazon Brand Bidding and the “Amazon Tax”

00:36:39 – What CMOs Must Lock Before Year-End Planning

00:41:22 – Hiring Plans, Budgets, and 2026 Readiness

00:46:21 – Managing Multiple Timelines Across Growth Teams

00:49:38 – Strategic Filters, Objectives, and Goal-Setting Frameworks

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This episode is a grab-bag of highly tactical operator insights - starting with a breakdown of why Grüns’ transactional SMS and subscription flows work so well, and what smart lifecycle design looks like when you’re trying to prevent churn, drive upgrades, and increase LTV. From there, we dive into one of the most impressive brand marketing plays of the year: the Marty Supreme campaign, and why its blend of social-first world-building, memeable moments, and built-in distribution is a blueprint for modern creative strategy.

We also get into the realities of TikTok Shop: how to measure it when attributed revenue looks tiny but impressions, content volume, and halo impact are massive; how better tooling and reporting can give a clearer read on its true impact; and how leading brands are already staffing the channel with dedicated affiliate managers and creator-community leads.

It’s a fast-moving episode focused on subscriptions, creative, and the emerging acquisition channels operators need to understand before they hit scale.

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Chapters:

00:00:00 - Introduction

00:03:27 - Transactional SMS Marketing and Retention

00:20:32 - The Marty Supreme Brand Campaign

00:32:10 - The Formula for Viral Stunts

00:44:15 - TikTok Shop Strategy and Measurement

00:52:39 - Comfort's Affiliate Community Model

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This week, we’re joined by Richie Mashiko - Head of Beacon at Iris Finance for a full breakdown of how BFCM played out across their businesses. Together, the group recaps what actually drove performance this year, from media-mix diversification and top-of-funnel investment to traffic dynamics, conversion-rate behavior, and how different brand sizes approached Cyber Five strategy.

From there, Richie walks through his forecasting philosophy - including how he builds bottoms-up financial models, how diminishing returns shape CAC and forecasting assumptions, and how finance and marketing need to stay aligned around realistic growth expectations. The group also dives into contribution margin, AMER, customer mix, and why so many brands forecast incorrectly when marketing isn’t part of the planning process.

They then unpack the levers that actually make an ecommerce business profitable: cohort behavior, scaling past category saturation, interpreting flat conversion rates alongside surging traffic, and what contribution dollars really tell you. Richie shares lessons learned from She’s Birdie’s rebuild year and how smaller brands can apply the same financial discipline as companies operating at nine-figure scale.

If you're trying to understand your BFCM results, build a forecast that reflects reality, or get finance and marketing speaking the same language, this episode is a must-listen.

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Chapters:

00:00:00 - Introduction

00:06:40 - BFCM recap

00:24:47 - Media Mix Strategy

00:41:52 - International Markets

00:53:44 - FP&A Background

01:07:05 - Building a Forecast

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In this episode of Marketing Operators, Cody and Connor break down how growth teams are rethinking measurement heading into 2026 - especially the rising importance of brand tracking. They discuss why click-based attribution alone no longer works, how incrementality and geo tests fill in the gaps, and why tracking awareness, consideration, and “future demand” is becoming essential.

Then they’re joined by Austin Santino, Client Development Manager at Tatari, and Jonathan McKenzie, Co-Founder of Turtlebox. Jonathan shares the brand’s unique origin story - four best friends building a rugged speaker for their sailboat before realizing it could become a business. Austin breaks down how Tatari has helped Turtlebox validate audiences and content through high-signal CTV testing and confidently expand into larger live-sports and linear placements. Jonathan also shares how Turtlebox is aiming to move from fast-cycling, performance-style creative toward more intentional, long-form storytelling as the brand matures.

This episode delivers the frameworks, tactics, and operator-level insights you need to sharpen your measurement strategy and scale your TV investment with confidence.

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Chapters:

00:00:00 - Introduction

00:06:32 - Implementing Brand Tracking

00:20:45 - The Value of Earned Media Value (EMV)

00:35:26 - Turtlebox Audio: Origin Story and Product Differentiation

00:48:11 - TV Content Strategy

00:58:25 - 2026 Planning and The "Small Bets" Philosophy for Founders

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This week, the team breaks down how operators should be thinking about Q4 performance, offer strategy, and what it really takes to evolve beyond the traditional “discount + ads” playbook. We get into why some brands are rolling out first-ever sitewide promotions, how seasonal bundles create new revenue moments, and how text-to-buy flows, post-purchase upsells, and Shopify Collective can create seamless cross-brand merchandising opportunities heading into 2026.

From there, we dive into one of the smoothest customer experiences we’ve seen lately: Fellow’s text-to-buy setup. We unpack why it works so well for hardware brands with natural consumable add-ons, which categories this model is best suited for, and how operators can use complementary products to create repeat pathways without relying on subscriptions.

We then dive into media expansion, with the hosts discussing why there’s more opportunity than ever outside the traditional hero channels - from curated newsletter audiences to out-of-home paired with sampling and experiential moments, and the rise of street-interview content as a high-performing acquisition engine. There is so much overlooked media in the ecosystem right now, and operators who feel capped on their core platforms may be missing high-leverage arbitrage.

We wrap with a discussion on identifying under-the-radar media buys, evaluating whether niche placements are worth the squeeze, and how to build a more resilient acquisition and retention engine moving into next year. If you’re expanding your media mix, pushing for higher LTV, or rethinking your Q4 strategy, this episode is packed with operator-level insights.

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Chapters:

00:00:00 - Introduction

00:17:51 - Text-to-Buy and Complementary Brand Partnerships

00:35:40 - Testing Free Plus Shipping and Sample Funnels

00:46:02 - Out-of-Home and Street Interviews

00:58:11 - Balancing Arbitrage vs. Measurement

01:08:28 - Aligning Media Investment with Attention Trends

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As we head into the final days before Cyber Five, this episode is all about going from daily pacing to true intraday pacing - the level of granularity operators need when every hour can swing the entire BFCM weekend. We break down how we monitor hourly revenue and ad spend across Meta, Google, and more using tools like Northbeam and Supermetrics, and how we make real-time adjustments when projections drift off target.

We also get into the messy but essential stuff: how inventory, merchandising, and media-mix strategy shape bid caps, channel budgets, and how aggressively you can push during Cyber Five, including the constant tradeoff brands face between maximizing contribution margin dollars and maintaining efficiency. The hosts share real examples of scaling (and protecting efficiency), running holdout tests, understanding incremental lift, and avoiding the overspend horror stories that can tank a weekend.

To wrap up, we talk through team etiquette during BFCM-who’s “on,” how to handle PTO, how the paid teams coordinate in hourly and bi-hourly check-ins, and what it takes operationally to keep a brand performing during the most high-pressure stretch of the year.

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Chapters:

00:00:00 - Introduction

00:10:52 - Intraday Revenue Pacing

00:24:39 - Cyber 5 Scale-Up Tests

00:39:07 - Bid Caps and Budget Strategies

00:52:10 - Channel Spend Forecasting

01:02:50 - Scaling Mid-Funnel Campaigns

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This week, we’re joined by Jon “JMo” Morgenstern, Head of Investment at VaynerMedia, who manages over $1.5B in annual media spend across brands like Oreo/Mondelez, JP Morgan Chase, PepsiCo, and Yeti. JMo breaks down how enterprise advertisers think about channel mix, retail media, and allocating capital across Meta, TikTok, CTV, Amazon, and Walmart and what DTC operators can learn from teams working at that scale.

From there, we dive deep into measurement. JMo breaks down how enterprise teams are approaching incrementality, causal MMM, brand lift, and retail media halo effects and why fast-moving brands need to start thinking beyond last-click and short-window ROAS if they want to graduate into real growth mode.

Then we move into creative. We talk about why “just make more ads” isn’t the strategy and how Vayner thinks about creative volume × creative diversity, niche persona testing, and using organic performance as a signal before scaling into paid.

We wrap with TikTok Shop, retail partnerships, and why even the biggest brands in the world are still navigating the same innovator’s dilemma as fast-growth DTC brands - just with more zeros and way more stakeholders. If you're trying to spend smarter, measure smarter, and make creative that actually moves the needle, you’re gonna love this one.

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Chapters:

00:00:00 - Introduction

00:04:59 - Fortune 500 vs DTC Strategies

00:17:59 - Measuring Awareness, Incrementality & MMM

00:38:49 - Vayner Volume Model: Diversity over Iteration

00:52:49 - Turning Organic Wins into TV Commercials

01:04:11 - TikTok Shop Strategy & Cross-Channel Halo

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In this episode of Marketing Operators, Cody and Connor unpack the real impact of Meta’s Andromeda update and what creative diversity actually means today, plus how to optimize for it in an algorithm-driven environment. They break down how short-form, personalized feeds have reshaped the playbook, why we’ve shifted from the editor era to the creator era, and what now constitutes a better ad in Meta’s eyes. They also dig into how to scale truly diverse creative without slowing down, harness organic social as a performance engine, and how the creative strategist role is evolving - expanding beyond editing into creator-first, social-native thinking and faster content systems.

Then they’re joined by Cathy Sun, VP of Ecommerce at AppLovin, to dive into the launch of AppLovin’s self-serve Axon ads platform. Cathy breaks down how rewarded mobile gaming ads work, why long-form clickable inventory is driving incremental performance for e-commerce brands, and the creative tactics that win - from increasing ad volume and variation to leveraging interactive formats and scaling with repeatable creative workflows. She shares real stories of brands rapidly ramping spend and unlocking breakout ROAS on AppLovin, and why this channel has quickly become a powerful performance complement to Meta.

If you’re evolving your creative for the Andromeda era and looking for scalable performance channels beyond Meta, this episode delivers the frameworks, tactics, and operator-level insights to grow with confidence.

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Chapters:

00:00:00 - Introduction

00:06:46 - The "Andromeda" Apocalypse

00:21:55 - Why We're in the "Creator Era" (Not the "Editor Era")

00:37:56 - How to Hire in the Creator Era

00:53:37 - Special Guest: What is AppLovin's Axon Platform?

01:07:39 - AppLovin Performance & Creative Best Practices

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