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Telling teams to "use AI" doesn't produce results. Damien Voita is Principal Campaign Manager at AdRoll, with nine years of agency and in-house experience in paid media and integrated campaign strategy. He explains why leaders must define what an effective AI outcome looks like before asking teams to experiment, and why a clear target, such as producing more output or working faster, is the first step. He also makes the case for framing AI as automation of a specific process, so the work makes the business more efficient.

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Holiday demand compresses into a few weeks, which makes late-season ad spend inefficient. Damien Voita is Principal Campaign Manager at AdRoll, with nine years of agency and in-house experience in paid media and integrated campaign strategy. He covers a three-phase measurement model that moves from platform metrics like CTR and CPM to branded search impressions to year-over-year CPA comparisons. He also explains how to shift budget into open web channels like CTV, native display, and audio, and how to build third-party validation that LLMs recognize. Finally, he outlines how to pitch brand investment to a CFO as a way to lower CPA and then shift to retargeting before shipping cutoffs.

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Answer engines are replacing traditional search rankings. Jordan Koene, CEO and co-founder of Previsible, helps Fortune 100 companies engineer content for AI-driven discovery instead of standard SEO. He covers building organic search strategies that adapt to answer engines, structuring content so large language models can cite it, and preparing enterprise brands for a search landscape shaped by generative AI.

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FIFA covered every brand logo at the World Cup stadium, including Levi's. Jordan Koene, CEO and Co-Founder of Previsible, explains why the blackout backfired for the league and worked in Levi's favor. Koene breaks down how brand recognition functions as an AEO signal, and how Levi's silhouette logo became a case study in owning your brand identity when competitors try to erase it.

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eBay's SEO strategy needs to adapt for AI-driven search. Jordan Koene, CEO and Co-Founder of Previsible and former Head of SEO and Content Development at eBay, explains where he'd focus first. He prioritizes fixing eBay's authority problem by narrowing focus to core categories like collectibles, then optimizing content to win visibility in AI search responses rather than competing to be everything to everyone.

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Search optimization terminology is splintering into competing acronyms. Jordan Koene, CEO and Co-Founder of Previsible, previously led SEO and content strategy at eBay and served as CEO of Searchmetrics before building a practice that prepares enterprise brands for AI-driven discovery. He and the host debate which term survives the next five years: SEO, GEO, or AEO. Koene argues SEO endures because search behavior persists even as the underlying engines shift from Google to LLMs, while the host draws a sharper line between optimizing for traditional search engines and engineering content for AI answer consumption.

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68% of Google searches now end without a click. Jordan Koene, CEO and co-founder of Previsible, explains why that traffic isn't lost—it's been redistributed into channels traditional analytics can't see. He breaks down replacing click tracking with impression data and LLM crawl frequency, optimizing structured data and About Us pages for AI retrieval, and using third-party sources like G2 and Capterra to shape brand perception inside ChatGPT, Gemini, and Claude.

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AI gives confident answers without the context to back them up. Kelly Hopping, four-time CMO and current CMO at 6sense, breaks down where AI's missing context creates risk for go-to-market teams. She explains how GTM intelligence platforms fill gaps that generic AI models miss, why context depth matters more than model size, and what marketers need to validate before trusting AI-driven insights across the customer journey.

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AI dashboards can look perfect while missing critical context. Kelly Hopping, CMO at 6sense and four-time marketing executive, explains how confidently wrong AI outputs mislead go-to-market teams. She points to closing the context gap in AI models, validating AI-driven insights against real buyer signals, and building go-to-market intelligence that accounts for the full customer journey, not just surface-level metrics.

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AI gives confident answers built on missing context. Kelly Hopping, four-time CMO and current CMO at 6sense, breaks down where that context gap hits go-to-market teams and how her CPG training shapes the fix. She explains treating brand marketing as full P&L ownership, not logo management, and applying classic 4P discipline—pricing, distribution, promotion, and messaging—as one system instead of disconnected levers. She contrasts this GM-style, cross-functional execution model with the narrower brand role common at most B2B SaaS companies.

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