My guest for episode is #156 is a friend, Mike Stoecklein, the Director of Network Operations for the Healthcare Value Network.I was able to work with Mike when I was an employee of the Lean Enterprise Institute, working closely with the HVN team and their members.

Our conversation is about Mike's reflections on meeting Dr. W. Edwards Deming in the late 1980s, volunteering to assist with some of his famed 4-day seminars around the country. You can read Mike's excellent blog post that was the basis for some of our discussion here. Why are we hear? To learn... and to have fun, as Dr. Deming said!

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