Military Murder

Tina Heins was 15 weeks pregnant when she was slaughtered in her home, while her husband was on duty. Tina’s brother-in-law, Chad Heins, was home during the murder and was awakened when the fire alarm blared - leading him to discover various small fires in the home. He rushed to get Tina, only to discover she had been murdered. Without much evidence, Chad was charged, convicted and sentenced to life in prison for Tina’s murder (in addition to sexual assault). In 2007, Chad was officially exonerated.

But Tina’s murder remained unsolved, until an arrest was made in September 2025! 

It was an arrest that shocked everyone. That man is now pending trial in the state of Florida. His name is Michael Ziegler. 

Dig in with Margot as she tells you this cold case (almost) solved. Remember - all persons are innocent until proven guilty in a court of law. .

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Military Murder is a military true crime podcast that focuses on murders committed by military members, veterans, and sometimes their family members. 

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Sources used to script this episode include information available on public news sites, interviews, court documents, and documentaries. When quoting statements made by others, they are strictly alleged until confirmed otherwise. Please remember this content contains my independent opinion.  Always do your own research. 

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Tara Grinstead disappeared from her house in October 2005. The investigation led authorities to various suspects over the years, but sadly, Tara’s case went ice cold. Then in 2016, a budding filmmaker (Payne Lindsey) decided to investigate the case in season 1 of his true crime podcast, Up and Vanished. The podcast was a hit and by early 2017, GBI released a statement, they had made an arrest in Tara Grinstead’s case. 10 days later, another arrest.

The alleged perpetrators? Ryan Duke and Bo Dukes - no relationship to each other, despite the similar last names.

After the two men confessed to their part in Tara’s disappearance, the case seemed pretty cut and dry, until one of the men took the stand in his own defense and flipped the script.

Dig in with Margot as she tells you this most bizarre case that although solved, will leave you asking, Who Killed Tara Grinstead?

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Military Murder is a military true crime podcast that focuses on murders committed by military members, veterans, and sometimes their family members. 

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Sources used to script this episode include information available on public news sites, interviews, court documents, and documentaries. When quoting statements made by others, they are strictly alleged until confirmed otherwise. Please remember this content contains my independent opinion.  Always do your own research. 

Disclaimer: The views expressed in this video are personal and do not necessarily reflect the official policy or position of any other agency, organization, employer, or company. These views are subject to change at any time and are not to be held in perpetuity. Mama Margot make no representations as to the accuracy, completeness, correctness, suitability, or validity of any information on this video/audio content and will not be liable for any errors, omissions, or delays in this information or any losses injuries, or damages arising from its display or use. All information is provided on an as-is basis. It is the viewers/listeners responsibility to verify their own facts.

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John Author Getreu was the son of an Army Sergeant Major. John committed a heinous crime while a dependent at a German installation and after serving time was deported back to the U.S. He found himself in California. He married twice and appeared to be living his best life, until he was tied to 2 murders in the 1970s at Stanford. 

This is the story of Margaret Williams, Leslie Perlov and Janet Taylor. 

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Sources used to script this episode include information available on public news sites, interviews, court documents, and documentaries. When quoting statements made by others, they are strictly alleged until confirmed otherwise. Please remember this content contains my independent opinion.  Always do your own research. 

Disclaimer: The views expressed in this video are personal and do not necessarily reflect the official policy or position of any other agency, organization, employer, or company. These views are subject to change at any time and are not to be held in perpetuity. Mama Margot make no representations as to the accuracy, completeness, correctness, suitability, or validity of any information on this video/audio content and will not be liable for any errors, omissions, or delays in this information or any losses injuries, or damages arising from its display or use. All information is provided on an as-is basis. It is the viewers/listeners responsibility to verify their own facts.

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The search for missing 16-year old Josephine Jimenez lasted 10 days. When her body was discovered in an orchard - suspicion quickly fell on a local boy she hung out with the day she vanished. But a call from NCIS investigating a sextortion scheme by one of their own marines flipped the case on its head. 

Dig in with Margot, as she tells you this tragic story that involved various anonymous text messages that will be reminiscent of Netflix’s #1 show “Unknown Number - The High School Catfish.”  

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Military Murder is a military true crime podcast that focuses on murders committed by military members, veterans, and sometimes their family members. 

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These are 5 of the top headlines in military news.

NOTE: All persons are innocent until proven guilty in a court of law. 

Today I cover these 5 headlines: 

-August 2025 Fort Stewart Mass Shooting (all victims survived)

-Montana Owl Bar Shooting and Manhunt

-14-year old Allegedly Shot His Parents Then Called 911 From A Church

-1974 German Cold Case Finally Sees Resolution in 2025

-A Texas Woman Files a Civil Wrongful Death Suit Alleging Marine Lover Laced her Hot Chocolate With Abortion Pills Causing the Death of Her 8-Week Fetus

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In 2018, Border Patrol agent Juan David Ortiz was unmasked as a serial killer in Laredo, Texas. Over the course of two weeks, he brutally murdered four women—Melissa Ramirez, Claudine Anne Luera, Guiselda Alicia Cantu, and Janelle Ortiz—targeting vulnerable victims he lured into his truck. His crimes sent shockwaves through the community and raised troubling questions about oversight in law enforcement ranks.

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♥️ Discussion Group:  https://facebook.com/groups/militarytruecrime @militarytruecrime

💗 Email:  [email protected]

Additional Information:

Sources used to script this episode include information available on public news sites, interviews, court documents, and documentaries. When quoting statements made by others, they are strictly alleged until confirmed otherwise. Please remember this content contains my independent opinion.  Always do your own research. 

Disclaimer: The views expressed in this video are personal and do not necessarily reflect the official policy or position of any other agency, organization, employer, or company. These views are subject to change at any time and are not to be held in perpetuity. Mama Margot make no representations as to the accuracy, completeness, correctness, suitability, or validity of any information on this video/audio content and will not be liable for any errors, omissions, or delays in this information or any losses injuries, or damages arising from its display or use. All information is provided on an as-is basis. It is the viewers/listeners responsibility to verify their own facts.

Comments on this channel are the sole responsibility of their writers and as such the writers will take full responsibility, liability, and blame for any libel or litigation that results from something written in or as a direct result of something written in a comment. 

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In this special episode, Margot is joined by Tom Arnold, a cybersecurity expert and author of the children's book 'The Digital Detective'. The duo discusses the importance of protecting kids online, especially during the back-to-school season. They highlight real-life frightening cases involving Roblox, emphasizing the need for parents to be vigilant. 

They delve into how to discuss online safety with children, the distinction between 'friends online' and 'online friends', and the importance of establishing a 'safe harbor' for open conversations about cybersecurity in the family. 

Check out Tom Arnold’s Kid’s Book - idigitaldetective.com or find the book on amazon here: https://amzn.to/4fFPnOl 

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Military Murder is a military true crime podcast that focuses on murders committed by military members, veterans, and sometimes their family members. 

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♥️ Discussion Group:  https://facebook.com/groups/militarytruecrime @militarytruecrime

💗 Email:  [email protected]

Additional Information:

Sources used to script this episode include information available on public news sites, interviews, court documents, and documentaries. When quoting statements made by others, they are strictly alleged until confirmed otherwise. Please remember this content contains my independent opinion.  Always do your own research. 

Disclaimer: The views expressed in this video are personal and do not necessarily reflect the official policy or position of any other agency, organization, employer, or company. These views are subject to change at any time and are not to be held in perpetuity. Mama Margot make no representations as to the accuracy, completeness, correctness, suitability, or validity of any information on this video/audio content and will not be liable for any errors, omissions, or delays in this information or any losses injuries, or damages arising from its display or use. All information is provided on an as-is basis. It is the viewers/listeners responsibility to verify their own facts.

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In early December 2022, dismembered body parts were found scattered over a 3 mile radius in Georgia. The Jane Doe remained anonymous for 6 months, but due to genetic geneology, her identity was discovered. The victim was 40-year old Mindi Kassotis. Her parents were shocked to learn that she had not only been murdered, but dismembered, because they had been told Mindi died at a hospital from a stroke.

Authorities then arrested Mindi’s husband, Nicholas Kassotis, a veteran and former navy judge advocate. 

This episode contains coverage from Day 1 of his trial. 

Check out The Alternate Podcast: Inside America’s Biggest Trials to follow along as Margot and Tabitha break down each day’s courtroom testimony. 

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Military Murder is a military true crime podcast that focuses on murders committed by military members, veterans, and sometimes their family members. 

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Additional Information:

Sources used to script this episode include information available on public news sites, interviews, court documents, and documentaries. When quoting statements made by others, they are strictly alleged until confirmed otherwise. Please remember this content contains my independent opinion.  Always do your own research. 

Disclaimer: The views expressed in this video are personal and do not necessarily reflect the official policy or position of any other agency, organization, employer, or company. These views are subject to change at any time and are not to be held in perpetuity. Mama Margot make no representations as to the accuracy, completeness, correctness, suitability, or validity of any information on this video/audio content and will not be liable for any errors, omissions, or delays in this information or any losses injuries, or damages arising from its display or use. All information is provided on an as-is basis. It is the viewers/listeners responsibility to verify their own facts.

Comments on this channel are the sole responsibility of their writers and as such the writers will take full responsibility, liability, and blame for any libel or litigation that results from something written in or as a direct result of something written in a comment. 

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After talking to CSM Womack, I wanted to dig into the 2003 Camp Pennsylvania insider attack conducted by Hasan Akbar, one of four men on military’s death row.

In this episode, I dive into the story through the post trial appeals and even discuss the victims' continued fight for the purple heart. 

Check out CSM (Ret) Womack’s book Embedded Enemy - available on amazon! 

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Military Murder is a military true crime podcast that focuses on murders committed by military members, veterans, and sometimes their family members. 

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♥️ Discussion Group:  https://facebook.com/groups/militarytruecrime @militarytruecrime

💗 Email:  [email protected]

Additional Information:

Sources used to script this episode include information available on public news sites, interviews, court documents, and documentaries. When quoting statements made by others, they are strictly alleged until confirmed otherwise. Please remember this content contains my independent opinion.  Always do your own research. 

Disclaimer: The views expressed in this video are personal and do not necessarily reflect the official policy or position of any other agency, organization, employer, or company. These views are subject to change at any time and are not to be held in perpetuity. Mama Margot make no representations as to the accuracy, completeness, correctness, suitability, or validity of any information on this video/audio content and will not be liable for any errors, omissions, or delays in this information or any losses injuries, or damages arising from its display or use. All information is provided on an as-is basis. It is the viewers/listeners responsibility to verify their own facts.

Comments on this channel are the sole responsibility of their writers and as such the writers will take full responsibility, liability, and blame for any libel or litigation that results from something written in or as a direct result of something written in a comment. 

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Today I wrap up my discussion with CSM (Ret) Bart Womack, author of Embedded Enemy: The Insider Threat. Join us for this discussion of his survival after escaping 2 grenade attacks in his own tent, and the hunt for the enemy who wore the same uniform as him…This is Part 2. 

Check out CSM (Ret) Womack’s book Embedded Enemy - available on amazon! 

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Military Murder is a military true crime podcast that focuses on murders committed by military members, veterans, and sometimes their family members. 

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💛 YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@mamamargot @mamamargot

💜 TikTok: https://tiktok.com/@militarymargot @militarymargot

❤️ Instagram: http://www.instagram.com/militarymurderpodcast @militarymurderpodcast & @militarymargot

♥️ Discussion Group:  https://facebook.com/groups/militarytruecrime @militarytruecrime

💗 Email:  [email protected]

Additional Information:

Sources used to script this episode include information available on public news sites, interviews, court documents, and documentaries. When quoting statements made by others, they are strictly alleged until confirmed otherwise. Please remember this content contains my independent opinion.  Always do your own research. 

Disclaimer: The views expressed in this video are personal and do not necessarily reflect the official policy or position of any other agency, organization, employer, or company. These views are subject to change at any time and are not to be held in perpetuity. Mama Margot make no representations as to the accuracy, completeness, correctness, suitability, or validity of any information on this video/audio content and will not be liable for any errors, omissions, or delays in this information or any losses injuries, or damages arising from its display or use. All information is provided on an as-is basis. It is the viewers/listeners responsibility to verify their own facts.

Comments on this channel are the sole responsibility of their writers and as such the writers will take full responsibility, liability, and blame for any libel or litigation that results from something written in or as a direct result of something written in a comment. 

Please feel free to challenge or disagree in the comments section – but Mama Margot reserves the right to delete any comment for any reason– so please keep it polite and relevant.

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