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#909 What does it take to grow a multi-million dollar service business from the ground up? In this episode, host Kirsten Tyrrel sits down with Serge Rochon, founder of Complete Windows & Doors, to unpack how he built a thriving home renovation company over the past 13 years — starting solo and scaling to a 25+ person team. Serge shares the lessons learned from cold-calling and canvassing his way to early customers, how mentorship shaped his start, why he avoided new construction jobs, and the importance of building systems and hiring ahead of the curve. Whether you're just getting started or preparing to scale, this conversation is full of practical wisdom for creating a profitable, sellable service business that doesn’t depend solely on you!

(Original Air Date - 9/15/25)

What we discuss with Serge:

+ Started business after 12+ years in industry

+ Chose renovations over new builds

+ Landed early clients through cold outreach

+ Leveraged past customer base to launch

+ Focused on expert installation and service

+ Scaled from solo to 25+ person team

+ Built systems to reduce owner dependency

+ Offers “good, better, best” product tiers

+ Uses CRM and quoting tools to stay lean

+ Emphasizes hiring ahead of demand

Thank you, Serge!

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#908 From law to lattice crusts, Dini McCullough Amozurrutia left her legal career to pursue a pandemic-born pie business — and never looked back! In this episode, host Brien Gearin chats with the founder of Dini’s Divine Pies about her leap from legal aid to full-time baker, how she launched at a winery on Mother’s Day with zero culinary background, and the grassroots growth that’s turned her into a local legend. Dini shares the joys and struggles of running a small batch bakery, the power of community and pop-ups, how she prices artisan pies, and why storytelling (not just sugar) is the secret ingredient behind her marketing. Whether you’re craving entrepreneurship or just a slice of key lime, this conversation is baked with heart!

(Original Air Date - 9/12/25)

What we discuss with Dini:

+ From lawyer to pie maker

+ Pandemic-inspired business launch

+ First pop-up at local winery

+ Small batch, all-butter crusts

+ Navigating commercial kitchens

+ Building a loyal customer base

+ Pricing artisan pies sustainably

+ Marketing through storytelling

+ Seasonal and culturally inspired pies

+ Future plans and scaling challenges

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#907 What does it actually take to turn a cold email into a media feature — and then turn that feature into a lasting relationship? In part two of this two-part episode, Carter Osborne picks up where he left off, diving deep into the craft of pitching reporters the right way. Carter explains why templates are the enemy of a great pitch, how to tailor your outreach to each reporter's specific beat, and why brevity might be the single most important element of any cold email. He also shares what to expect after a reporter says yes — whether that's a live interview or an email Q&A — and how to maintain those relationships without becoming the person they dread seeing in their inbox. Plus, Carter opens up about a hard-learned lesson from a Wall Street Journal reporter he accidentally scared off with an overly enthusiastic email. If you've ever wondered how small businesses can realistically measure the ROI of PR efforts, Carter breaks that down too — and makes a compelling case for why media relations might be the highest-leverage, zero-cost growth tool any entrepreneur is sleeping on!

What we discuss with Carter:

+ Why templates kill a good pitch

+ Matching your pitch to the reporter's beat

+ Brevity is everything in cold outreach

+ Using subject lines that get opened

+ What happens after a reporter says yes

+ Interview vs. email Q&A formats

+ Keeping reporter relationships warm without being annoying

+ The Wall Street Journal lesson learned the hard way

+ Why PR metrics are notoriously hard to measure

+ Media relations as a zero-cost growth tool

Thank you, Carter!

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#906 What if the most powerful lead generation tool for your business costs absolutely nothing? In part one of this two-part episode, host Brien Gearin sits down with college admissions consultant and former PR professional Carter Osborne, who shares how he spent four years juggling two full-time jobs before making the leap to run his own business — and how he used strategic media relations to fuel its growth. Carter breaks down why getting featured in outlets like CNBC builds instant credibility with potential clients, how to identify the right media targets across three tiers of publications, and why the key to landing coverage isn't selling yourself — it's making a reporter's job easier. Whether you're still in side-hustle mode or already running your own business, Carter's framework for crafting pitches that actually get responses is something every entrepreneur needs to hear!

What we discuss with Carter:

+ Side hustle to full-time leap

+ The hidden cost of doing both

+ PR as free lead generation

+ Third-party validation builds trust

+ Organic vs. pay-to-play media

+ Tiered media list strategy

+ Crafting a newsworthy hook

+ Building real reporter relationships

+ Lead with their needs, not yours

Thank you, Carter!

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#905 Want to build a 7-figure e-commerce business without holding inventory? In this episode, host Brien Gearin sits down with Ben Knegendorf, co-founder of Dropship Breakthru, to unpack how he went from stacking dog food at Walmart to running and selling multiple high-ticket dropshipping stores. Ben shares how he overcame fear and self-doubt, built his first store, and scaled into multiple 6- and 7-figure exits. He breaks down what drop shipping really is, how to land supplier relationships, why high-ticket beats low-ticket, and how to leverage Google Ads and SEO for maximum profitability. If you're curious about e-commerce, this episode is a masterclass in how to start lean, scale smart, and build a business around the customers you actually want to serve!

(Original Air Date - 9/11/25)

What we discuss with Ben:

+ From Walmart job to e-commerce success

+ Discovering high-ticket dropshipping

+ Importance of choosing your customer

+ How dropshipping really works

+ First steps to launching a store

+ Getting over the fear of calling suppliers

+ Why high-ticket beats low-ticket

+ Simple Google Ads strategy explained

+ Using SEO and content to drive sales

+ Building lean teams with big margins

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#904 Ready to stack your way to side hustle success? In this jam-packed episode, host Brien Gearin sits down with Christine Schaub — author of Queen of the Side Hustle — to unpack how she turned six different income streams into one cohesive business. From concierge piano lessons and professional dog sitting to catering luxe in-home events, writing bestselling books, and even hosting a YouTube show (Come On Over), Christine reveals how she monetizes her many passions with strategy, creativity, and killer time management. She shares how each hustle snowballed from the last, how she prices and structures her services, and why going the extra mile (like weeding gardens while dog sitting or leaving wine and fresh flowers for clients) leads to repeat business and raving fans. If you've ever wondered how to juggle multiple income streams without burning out, this is your masterclass!

(Original Air Date - 9/10/25)

What we discuss with Christine:

+ Stacking six side hustles into one business

+ Teaching piano as a concierge service

+ Writing and editing books for others

+ Catering and hosting in-home events

+ Professional dog sitting with extras

+ Gardening as a premium add-on service

+ Hosting the YouTube show Come On Over

+ How to price and manage multiple hustles

+ Going the extra mile to wow clients

+ Time-blocking strategies for productivity

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#903 Most founders think revenue equals readiness — but scaling too early is one of the fastest ways to kill a business. In this episode, host Brien Gearin sits down with Mark Roberge — fourth employee at HubSpot, Harvard Business School professor, co-founder and managing partner at Stage2 Capital, and investor in 200+ companies — to break down exactly when and how to scale revenue. Mark explains why product-market fit has nothing to do with sales numbers and everything to do with retention, how to identify your business's "leading indicator of retention" so you're not waiting a year to learn if customers are sticking around, and why go-to-market fit must come before you hire a single salesperson. He also unpacks the concept of "blitzscale pressure" and how it should shape the pace of your growth, plus shares his take on the four phases of how AI will reshape sales teams entirely!

What we discuss with Mark:

+ Revenue ≠ product-market fit

+ Retention is the real proof of value

+ Leading indicators of retention (P, E, T framework)

+ Product-market fit before go-to-market fit

+ Don't scale before you can serve profitably

+ Hire reps gradually, not all at once

+ Listen to business signals as you scale

+ Assess your category's "blitzscale pressure"

+ AI will take selling time from 25% to 75%

+ Build an advisory board early

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#902 Think you need decades of experience to build a high-revenue business? Think again! In this episode, host Brien Gearin sits down with 21-year-old Jack Leimbach, founder of Tiger Window Cleaning in Auburn, Alabama — a college-student-run service pulling in $30K+ months. Jack shares how he turned a $200 Amazon squeegee kit into a thriving business by mastering door-to-door sales, leveraging TikTok scripts, scaling with Facebook ads, and leading a student-powered team. From landing his first $220 gig to building a fully automated service with CRMs, recurring plans, and two trucks, this is a masterclass in scrappy startup growth and operational grit. Whether you're in college or just starting out, Jack’s story will inspire you to knock on doors — literally and figuratively!

(Original Air Date - 9/9/25)

What we discuss with Jack:

+ Started business at 19 in college

+ Learned door-to-door sales from TikTok

+ First job earned $220

+ Hit $10K months during finals

+ Invested in water-fed pole system

+ Transitioned to Facebook ads for leads

+ Built team of Auburn students

+ Uses CRM to automate operations

+ Offers recurring service plans

+ Aims to sell business before graduation

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#901 What happens after you build something that actually works — and how do you keep growing when you're the one everyone looks to for answers? In Part 2 of this two-part episode, Tara Williams continues her conversation with relationship expert Stacey Martino, diving into the behind-the-scenes reality of running a business alongside your spouse, the personal work that never really stops, and why Stacey believes the "ascension spiral" is the key to navigating every new challenge life throws at you. Stacey gets refreshingly honest about what still pushes her buttons, how she fills her own cup while carrying the weight of other people's relationships, and why her methodology — built on freedom rather than conformity — feels more relevant than ever in today's changing world. Whether you're working through a relationship, building a business, or just trying to figure out your next right step, this conversation will remind you that the hero's journey doesn't end — and that's actually a good thing!

What we discuss with Stacey:

+ Self-care: short-term vs. long-term

+ The power of working outdoors

+ The "ascension spiral" explained

+ Why the hero's journey never ends

+ Facing challenges as requirements for growth

+ Moving toward what feels right (not what's safe)

+ Your current skills are future assets

+ Isolation vs. connection and growth

+ Relationship Development Method: freedom over conformity

+ Where to get Stacey's free book

Thank you, Stacey!

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#900 What does it take to go from a burnt-out accountant with a crumbling marriage to building a relationship coaching company with a 1% divorce rate? In Part 1 of this two-part episode, host Tara Williams sits down with Stacey Martino, co-founder of the Relationship Development Organization, who shares how she accidentally saved her own marriage — and how that personal breakthrough eventually became a calling she couldn't ignore. Stacey opens up about the messy, reluctant beginnings of her business: the early methods that completely bombed, the guilt of working with real couples before she had all the answers, and the pivotal moment her husband Paul challenged her to stop playing small. If you've ever wondered whether you're "qualified enough" to turn your hard-won experience into something that helps others, this one's for you!

What we discuss with Stacey:

+ Accountant to relationship coach

+ Marriage nearly fell apart

+ Husband Paul sparked the mission

+ Early methods completely bombed

+ Patterns emerged across clients

+ Reluctant hero answers the call

+ Worked free for years first

+ Charged only once results proven

+ Started with group 8-week program

+ Demand swelled, careers shifted

Thank you, Stacey!

Check out Part 2 of this episode.

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