October 26, 2023

More Triads We Don't Teach

56 minutes

In this episode of the Awareness to Action Enneagram podcast, Mario Sikora, María José Munita and Seth "Creek" Creekmore discuss why we need to be careful when discussing other ideas and/or models linked to the Enneagram, such as the triads. The Enneagram is a model with every hypothesis and scientific theory providing the best existing explanation that will eventually upgrade or evolve. Some of these ideas make things more complex while some are problematic. As the three hosts seek to find the best explanations for certain phenomena to solve a particular problem, they explore the construction and framework of the triads and why they personally don’t include them in their training.

“It’s always good to take a moment and imagine somehow that someone proved the Enneagram completely false. And those emotions will arise of like, Well, crap. I’ve invested so much time in this. I’m maybe making money from this. There’s so many different things, and what would you do if it was false? And if you’re clinging on to it, then that’s a sign of something. It’s a sign of some level of attachment that isn’t allowing you to see clearly. If it’s just a tool, then yeah, when it ceases to be useful, you can let it go.” -Creek [14:18]

“I would like to see Enneagram teachers question their concepts more. And be more open to the idea that maybe some ideas are not as robust as we think they are. Maybe some ideas are outdated. Maybe it’s time to start seeing some things in a different way.” -Mario [25:45]

“We don’t see a problem in the model itself, I think. It’s just when we make some kind of simplistic correlations with the Enneagram, which applies to some people, but not to everyone and not all the time.” -María José [33:57]

TIMESTAMPS

[00:01] Intro

[01:08] Two kinds of explanations

[07:42] 27 different versions of people

[11:57] The Enneagram doesn’t explain everything

[17:31] Is this a tool or an identity?

[21:01] The more scrutiny, the less utility

[25:02] It’s time to see things in a different way

[34:13] These models start to break after a while

[37:09] The Hornevian Triad aka social styles

[43:55] The Harmony Triad aka object relations

[49:35] Enneagram Tritype