Interesting Times with Ross Douthat

‘Mountain Dew and Racism’: Identity Enters the Election

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The 2024 presidential race is officially in its identity politics stage. From “White Dudes for Harris,” to “D.E.I. candidate” accusations, the hosts debate how race and racism are being deployed in the second week of the Harris v. Trump election.

(A full transcript of this episode will be available within 24 hours of publication on the Times website.)

Mentioned in this episode:

  • “Dreams From My Father: A Story of Race and Inheritance” by Barack Obama
  • “Rising Stare: The Making of Obama” by David J. Garrow
  • “Barack Obama: The Story” by David Maraniss
  • “The Olympic Flame Isn’t a Flame at All” by Andrew Keh

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