Naked Beauty

Legendary makeup artist Katie Jane Hughes is back with more to share than ever. Since her first visit in 2020, she has returned with a larger celebrity clientele, an acclaimed portfolio, and her own cosmetics line, KJH.Brand. During this conversation, we talked about how she created a portfolio of her skills by using her own face as a canvas and sharing her work on Instagram. Despite this practice being frowned upon in the industry, the risk paid off. Katie’s social media posts became the lookbook that drew in celebrity clients like Dua Lipa, Hailey Bieber, and Ashley Graham.

Katie walked us through her decision to take another risk and launch the self-funded KJH.Brand. It’s no surprise that KJH.Brand is already a success, as it was built with the intention of educating users of all skill levels, and is inherently shade-inclusive. Katie’s transparency in this interview mirrors her openness on social media about her business and personal matters, like her family’s IVF journey. Of course, our conversation wouldn’t be complete without her providing a few pro tips to correct common beauty mistakes and an impromptu try on of the Precision Sculpture Stylo multi-use pencil.

Tune in as we discuss:

(02:05) Katie's Thoughts on LA

(04:48) Building a Community and Brand

(05:52) The Power of Social Media for Makeup Artists

(10:41) Katie’s Top Makeup Techniques and Tips

(18:28) Creating Inclusive Beauty Products

(21:55) The Inspiration Behind KJH Brand

(24:44) Katie’s Female Founder Group Chat 

(26:32) Katie’s Most Innovative Beauty Products 

(37:30) How Katie Balances Work and Personal Life

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Products Mentioned:

• Precision Sculpture Stylo
• Glossier Boy Brow Arch Pencil
• Fara Homidi Essential Face Compact Refillable Concealer
• iS Clinical Reparative Moisture Emulsion
• Major Fade Disco Block Discoloration Treatment SPF 50
• Freaks of Nature Peak Performance Sun Stick

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This week we're sharing a very special episode, and I'm actually the one being interviewed! I was a guest on Nayeema’s show, Smart Girl Dumb Questions, where we talked through all her big beauty questions like: “Is preventative botox real?” or “What is salmon sperm and why is it in my skincare?” Tune in for a fun conversation between Nayeem and me, and follow Smart Girl Dumb Questions on Apple, Spotify, YouTube, or wherever you get your podcasts.

I’ll be back next week with a brand new episode! 

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Norma Kamali is a fashion innovator and true icon, and today, she’s sharing lessons from her remarkable life with the Naked Beauty audience. Norma and I discussed her early days of bringing vintage clothing from London to New York, the creation of innovative designs like the Sleeping Bag Coat and high-heeled sneaker, and her philosophy of making women feel great through fashion. We also into Norma's upbringing, her path-defining experiences, and her wellness routines that keep her vibrant at 80. Norma’s story underscores the importance of purpose, creativity, and self-care in navigating life’s challenges, and she provides such wise advice about longevity, relationships, and finding your true calling.

Tune in for:

(03:07) Norma’s experience growing up in Manhattan

(07:50) The fashion and beauty icons Norma looked up to as a young woman

(11:47) Norma’s early travels to London

(22:42) Establishing her own label

(27:52) Starting over after divorce

(33:02) Norma’s advice for discovering purpose and clarity in life

(37:43) Norma’s wellness routines

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Products Mentioned:

Norma Kamali SKINLINE

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Dr. Sharon Malone believes that every single person is their own primary caregiver and that we all need to take agency of our healthcare journey. In today’s episode, we unpack the key actions women need to be taking to safeguard their health. In our conversation, Dr. Malone discusses the historical context of healthcare and segregation, her inspirational journey to becoming a doctor, and her dedication to empowering women through accessible medical knowledge. Dr. Malone and I also discussed her book 'Grown Woman Talk,' which serves as a comprehensive guide for women navigating various health issues from their thirties to old age. Covering topics such as perimenopause, fertility, endometriosis, PCOS, and fibroids, she emphasizes the importance of self-advocacy in healthcare. This episode is a blend of personal storytelling, professional expertise, and practical advice on maintaining and improving women's health across different life stages.

Tune in as we discuss:

(01:40) Dr. Malone’s upbringing in the Jim Crow South

(15:19) Healthy habits we can all implement right now 

(27:18) Navigating Fertility and Reproductive Health

(35:48) Endometriosis: Symptoms and Treatments

(37:16) Heavy Periods and Anemia

(41:07) PCOS: Symptoms and Misconceptions

(43:06) Fibroids and their impact on Black Women

(45:55) Perimenopause

(51:35) Hormone Therapy

Check out Dr. Malone’s New Podcast, The Second Opinion

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Products Mentioned:

Alloy Health Topical Estriol Face Cream 

Bobbi Brown Blush

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In this episode of Naked Beauty, we’re unpacking a macro trend in the industry: experts are back in the spotlight. My producer, Mbiye Kasonga, joins me to discuss the trend of consumers seeking guidance from experienced professionals online, and how that’s reflected in recent beauty launches led by expert makeup artists and dermatologists. Sephora is particularly invested in expert-led brands, with brands like Danessa Myricks, Charlotte Tilbury. Brooke shares her personal experience with professional makeup artists, and Mbiye discusses the trends that preceded this moment in beauty culture and the environmental factors that might be contributing to it. Stick around to the end of the episode for our favorite Latinx-owned brands, in honor of Hispanic Heritage Month. 

Discover the Refinery29 Fall Lookbook

Discover Our Favorite Latinx-owned Brands:

Aora Makeup

Maed Beauty

Chillhouse

Shop Our Favorite Expert-Led Brands

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Follow our favorite experts:

Ehlie Luna 

Katie Jane Hughes 

Ron Robinson

Yuri London

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Umut and I took our first child-free vacation to Ibiza to celebrate our ten-year anniversary, and it was just the escape we needed. In this episode, Umut joins me to reminisce on the best parts of our trip, including beauty and wellness lessons from Ibiza, reviews of our favorite stays and meals, reflections on our parenthood journey, a few lessons we’ve learned about maintaining a healthy marriage. 

Tune in as we discuss:

• Why we chose Ibiza for this special anniversary trip 
• Beauty and lifestyle lessons from Ibiza 
• The 2007-Barney’s level boutique I found 
• What we’ve learned about sustaining a happy marriage  

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Products Mentioned: 

• Naked Beauty Fragrance

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When she was a baby, Deepica Mutyala was exposed to the cultural significance of eyeliner. While the eyeliner was swiped behind her ear for spiritual protection, this and other cultural beauty rituals would shape her future in beauty. Growing up in an immigrant family, Deepica felt the pressure to pursue a stable career that would help her achieve the American Dream. She explains why she is so grateful for her parents' support when she decided to take an unconventional approach, even when they didn’t fully understand how vlogging would pay the bills. Eventually, she built Live Tinted, a business that healed her inner teen, who wanted to fit in with her blonde and blue-eyed peers in Texas.

In 2015, Deepica shared a viral video showing how she hid dark circles. She built a community around that momentum and later committed to developing products that met their needs. In her work, Deepica became the representation of South Asians that she had always wanted for a global community of followers, who later became customers. She drew on her early experiences watching her mom repurpose makeup that hadn’t been made with her in mind to create easy-to-use and multifunctional products that sell every 3 minutes. Listen to learn more about how Deepica’s thoughtful approach to beauty has led her from the Today Show to having a custom Barbie, and how it feels to have built the business she grew up needing. 

Tune in as we discuss:

• How she got beauty icon Bobbi Brown to become an early investor in Live Tinted
• Why taking six years to perfect the Live Tinted shade range was worth it
• How being ambitious and successful in L.A. impacts her dating life
• Which products she uses to achieve her 5-minute date night face
• Why everyone should experience the beauty of an Indian wedding

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Products Mentioned: 

• Tatcha The Camellia Cleansing Oil
• BeautyStat Universal Microbiome Barrier Balancing Cleanser
• Live Tinted SUPERHUE Hyperpigmentation Serum Stick
• Live Tinted SUPERHUE Brightening Eye Cream
• Tatcha The Dewy Cream
• Dieux Instant Angel Lipid & Peptide-Rich Moisturizer + Barrier Repair

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Shani Hillian’s holistic skincare journey began in her grandmother’s garden, where fresh-cut aloe was the go-to balm for skin issues. Now, with over 17 years of experience as an esthetician, she leverages her roots in holistic skincare to create rituals that restore balance for herself and her clients. Shani shared her experience of transitioning from hair styling to skincare, influenced by her modeling career, and discussed the importance of simple, effective skincare routines. Our conversation also covered Shani’s experience with pregnancy-related hair loss and her tips for skin-friendly nutrition, emphasizing balance rather than strict restrictions. And I couldn’t let Shani leave without getting all her expert skincare tips. She explained the benefits of oil cleansers, how to find non-comedogenic oils, and the philosophy behind her minimalist approach to skincare. She also discussed the impact of lifestyle habits, such as exercise and nutrition, on skin health. This episode highlights the importance of understanding individual skin types and the value of holistic, well-balanced beauty routines.

Tune in for…

(01:43) Shani's holistic beauty journey

(02:25) Her Jamaican beauty rituals and family influence

(09:13) The importance of a simple skincare routine

(21:36) Dairy and skin health

(28:13) Fermented foods for gut health

(29:29) Modeling and body positivity

(32:08) Lymphatic drainage and dry Brushing

(34:38) Sweating for Glowing Skin

Products Mentioned:

In Groove Oil Cleanser

Epilogic True Calm Cleanser

Inner Sense Hair Products: Shampoo, Conditioner, Gel 

L'Oreal Curl Expression Mousse

La Roche-Posay Cleanser 

Sliq Deep Conditioner

Caudalie Cleanser 

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Dr. Anna Malaika Tubbs knows that the power of women’s activism can change the course of history. In Three Women she explored how Berdis Baldwin, Alberta King, and Louise Little’s motherly love prepared their sons to become renowned activists. This week, we’re chatting about her new book, Erased: What American Patriarchy Has Hidden from Us. In it, Dr. Tubbs explores how our Founding Fathers enshrined patriarchy into law, with the intention of building a nation for men. During our conversation, we discussed how American patriarchy extends into every part of our lives, including our beauty choices. 

Dr. Tubbs was raised as a confident globetrotter. Her time spent traveling the world informed how she viewed herself and how beauty standards varied across cultures. She shared that despite positive affirmations from her family about her intelligence and beauty, self-confidence wasn’t always modeled. She regained a strong sense of confidence in college and began to consider why patriarchal beauty standards rely on us hating ourselves. She would come to explore how American culture shapes meaning about women and the limited choices that women have been offered historically in Erased. Her curiosity and knowledge led us seamlessly through conversations about how she models confidence for her children, why technology reproduces existing beauty standards, and why weight loss trends tell us very little about health. Dr. Tubbs reminds us that while we should be aware of patriarchy’s influence on our choices, we are not powerless.

Tune in as we discuss:

• The book that helped shape her understanding of patriarchy in the U.S.
• Who tried to prevent the Founding Fathers from excluding women from the Constitution
• What history tells us about women beautifying themselves without male input
• The relationship between facial dysmorphia and ageism
• Imagining a better future for ourselves and our children

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When Chriselle Lim started blogging 18 years ago, she didn’t know she was building a career in what would become the most powerful industry today. During our conversation, Chriselle talks about watching the influencer industry develop from within, and how it led her to the most unexpected places. Growing up in Northern California and Korea, Chriselle felt pressured by national beauty standards, neither of which she thought she quite met. With limited Asian American representation in popular culture, she turned to fashion to project an air of confidence. She became the representation she always wanted as her digital audience grew.

Her success in creatively directing her online presence resulted in an opportunity to join Phlur as co-owner and creative director. As with her own style, she merged her passion for storytelling with a beautiful product and helped turn the fragrance brand into one of the most popular on the market. Her impeccable taste and close attention to what fans want have led to Phlur’s placement in 500 Sephoras and other international retailers. During her rising professional success, Chriselle went through a divorce. Again, she turned to her creativity to project closeness and confidence in her life, which led to the development of Phlur’s hero scent, Missing Person. Her talent and storytelling led to a 250,000-person waitlist of people who resonated with Chriselle’s visionary approach to scent and story.

Tune in as we discuss:

• (4:16) What her beauty experiences were like as an Asian American teen
• (7:08) What led her to dissolve her facial fillers 
• (27:30) Her scent predictions for the future
• (43:34) The books she can’t get enough of 

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