Today I’m joined by writer, therapist, and creative Lisa Olivera to talk about how her work and life have shifted as her Instagram platform's grown to over 400,000 followers.

Together, we dive into:

• Two reasons Lisa joined Instagram + how it felt as her account grew
• The allure of online business + what we’re “supposed to do” when we have a big platform
• Unpacking the rise of the “instagram therapist” + the content-ification of therapy
• Why Lisa started her Substack newsletter + how it’s supported her work
• Social media addiction + the compulsion to post/like/share/scroll
• Facing the big hole that’s there when social media’s not there
• How to make the choice to stay on social media (or not)

 
RESOURCES + LINKS
👋 Download the FREE Leaving Social Media Toolkit
🌐 Join the Interweb for courses + community
🌸 Peep the Clubhouse for bonus episodes + emails
💌 Learn more about purchasing ad space + sponsoring the show

How do we stay creative — when there’s so much to do and so much at stake?

Today I’m joined by writer, coach, and retreat leader Maria Bowler for a practical and philosophical conversation about:

• The difference between productivity & creativity
• Why we don’t want to focus on “being efficient” or “maximizing ROI”
• How to actually be present (without feeling like you’re just being told to “be present”)
• The pain of alienation & how it permeates our daily lives
• Distinguishing between creative friction & oppressive friction
• Why creating more isn’t about doing less
• How to stretch time, lose track of it, and be with yourself beyond the clock
• What Maria thinks about social media this year

 
If you love this conversation, make sure to get yourself a copy of Maria’s book, Making Time! Off the Grid listeners get a special discount and free shipping at this link. (sponsored)

 
RESOURCES + LINKS
👋 Download the FREE Leaving Social Media Toolkit
🌐 Join the Interweb for courses + community
🌸 Peep the Clubhouse for bonus episodes + emails
💌 Learn more about purchasing ad space + sponsoring the show

It’s 2025 and everyone’s sick of social media… so what do we do now?

Today we’re kicking off season six with a conversation with poet, author, actor, and model Arielle Estoria. Over the past decade, Arielle has cultivated a multi-faceted creative career while growing her Instagram following to over 100K people.

In this vulnerable conversation, we explore:

• Arielle’s work as an artist & how social media turned her into an influencer
• What happened for Arielle when supporting Black creators was no longer “popular”
• The impact of social media trends on our identity + creative practice
• The boundaries Arielle's creating to stay focused on her art in 2025
• Plus! Arielle asks me if I miss anything about Instagram… and we chat about my newfound Youtube addiction 😬

 
RESOURCES + LINKS
👋 Download the FREE Leaving Social Media Toolkit
🌐 Join the Interweb for courses + community
🌸 Peep the Clubhouse for bonus episodes + emails
💌 Learn more about purchasing ad space + sponsoring the show

TikTok's been banned (for a minute). Meta's removed fact-checking (for good?). 2025 has already been a big year in social media news, and if you're having some big feelings about it, this episode is for you.

Today we’re grieving social media together, so we can remember what we loved, recognize what we miss, and prepare ourselves to step into what’s next.

So whether you were abruptly kicked off TikTok or you've been inching away from social media for a while, tune in to this Best Of episode (with a new of-the-moment intro!) to hear more about:

• What the TikTok ban means for small business
• Why we need to make space to grieve our favorite social media apps
• A 3-step practice for connecting with your feelings about social media
• Grieving vs Mourning & Embodying the process

 
RESOURCES + LINKS
🔗 Get all the links mentioned in this episode here
👋 Download the FREE Leaving Social Media Toolkit
🌐 Join the Interweb for courses + community
🌸 Peep the Clubhouse for bonus episodes + emails
💌 Try Flodesk for easy email marketing, forms + e-commerce & use this link for 50% off your first year (affiliate link)

Let's put the cherry on top of your 2025 marketing toolkit with a long-form episode on 2025 Marketing Trends!

To do that, I'm joined by communications strategist Amanda Laird to chat about four things she's forecasting for the year ahead, including:

• AI operations & optimization — plus the need to disclose how we're using AI in our work 🤖
• Big shifts in the social media landscape — including the fall of X, the rise of Bluesky, "free speech" on Facebook & more 🪨
• Substack's slow & steady descent from newsletter service to social media platform... 🫠
• & The return to IRL events — plus more intimacy in our online spaces 🫂

   
Tune in for a gently-guided look into the murky crystal ball of online biz in 2025. Then join us in the Clubhouse for our members-only biz forecast episodes throughout the year!

MORE FROM AMANDA
🐌 Visit the Slow & Steady website
📩 Sign up for Amanda's newsletter
🎧 Listen to Amanda's previous appearance on Off the Grid (Apple Podcasts, Spotify)

 
RESOURCES + LINKS
👋 Download the FREE Leaving Social Media Toolkit
🌐 Join the Interweb for courses + community
🌸 Peep the Clubhouse for bonus episodes + emails
💌 Try Flodesk for easy email marketing, forms + e-commerce & use this link for 50% off your first year (affiliate link)

Today we're revealing the third tool in your 2025 marketing toolkit, and I'm resharing our BEST OF episode where Michelle Warner teaches us all about relationship marketing!

With an MBA from one of the world’s top business schools and 15+ years experience growing small businesses, Michelle designs tiny companies that are built to last. She’s also the creator of Networking That Pays, the introvert-friendly connection system that brings in reliable leads, consistent referrals and meaningful connections for your business — in just 5 minutes a day.
 

Together, Michelle and I talk about:

• What relationship marketing is
• The difference between relationship marketing & traffic marketing
• How a network can support your business
• Who needs to be in your network (& who doesn’t)
• How to “borrow an audience” & why it’s so effective
• The one type of content you need to have for relationship marketing to work

 
MORE FROM MICHELLE

⏱️ Get Michelle’s free workshop 5 Minutes A Day to a Network That Pays
🎧 Listen to Michelle's podcast Sequence Over Strategy

 
RESOURCES + LINKS
👋 Download the FREE Leaving Social Media Toolkit
🌐 Join the Interweb for courses + community
🌸 Peep the Clubhouse for bonus episodes + emails
💌 Try Flodesk for easy email marketing, forms + e-commerce & use this link for 50% off your first year (affiliate link)

At long last, we’ve got an episode exploring all things podcast guesting! And to do that I’m joined by return guest, portfolio career expert, and founder of Inner Workout, Taylor Elyse Morrison.
 

Together we get into:

• What podcast guesting is (and what it isn’t)
• How to know if you should start a podcast or focus on podcast guesting
• A pep talk for boosting your confidence on the mic
• 3 things to do before you focus on podcast guesting
• Examples of how to develop pitch topics for a few different types of businesses + creators

 
And if you’re ready to put all this into action, please let me recommend Taylor’s new course, Grow Your Brand by Podcast Guesting! I’m a guest expert on one of the sections, and you can use the code OFFTHEGRID FOR $50 off if you sign up by the end of January.

MORE FROM TAYLOR

👀 Read Taylor’s blog posts on how podcast guesting fits into your marketing strategy + how to make the most of being a podcast guest

📈 Use the code OFFTHEGRID for $50 off Grow Your Brand By Podcast Guesting (code expires 1/31/25)

RESOURCES + LINKS
👋 Download the FREE Leaving Social Media Toolkit
🌐 Join the Interweb for courses + community
🌸 Peep the Clubhouse for bonus episodes + emails
💌 Try Flodesk for easy email marketing, forms + e-commerce & use this link for 50% off your first year (affiliate link)

Welcome to our 2025 Marketing Toolkit! Today on the pod, we’re talking all things email marketing with Allea Grummert of Duett.

Tune in to learn:

• 5 reasons email might be the best marketing channel for your business
• What a welcome sequence is + why it’s different than a nurture sequence
• How to find the right email platform for you
• Why email segments + tags help you be your best, most multi-passionate self
• How Allea solves Amelia’s biggest email problem in 2 minutes
• Intermediate + advanced email strategies like link triggers, nested sequences and automated sales funnels

 
Whether you're an email beginner just starting your list or a seasoned pro hoping to bump up those click rates, this episode has supportive, implementable advice for you! I hope you'll tune in and share it with a friend xo
 
MORE FROM ALLEA
📩 Get all the email goods from Allea + Duett right here
🎧 Listen to Allea's podcast Happy Subscribers

RESOURCES + LINKS
👋 Download the FREE Leaving Social Media Toolkit
🌐 Join the Interweb for courses + community
🌸 Peep the Clubhouse for bonus episodes + emails
💌 Try Flodesk for easy email marketing, forms + e-commerce & use this link for 50% off your first year (affiliate link)

Happy New Year & welcome to season five of Off the Grid! 

Today we're kicking off this year-in-biz with a fun new format — five episodes in five days!

Press play to hear all about it, and tune in this week to learn:

• Our top 3 marketing strategies for 2025
• Need-to-know advice for email marketing beginners & pros
• How to be a better guest on better podcasts
• Why relationships always matter
• & What trends will grab extra attention in the year ahead!

You'll hear from amazing guests like Allea Grummert, Taylor Elyse Morrison, Michelle Warner, and Amanda Laird. It's basically a mini-of-the-moment-marketing-masterclass all for free on the pod feed this week! So please subscribe and share it with a friend xo


RESOURCES + LINKS
👋 Get the FREE Leaving Social Media Toolkit
🌐 Join the Interweb for courses + community
🌸 Peep the Clubhouse for bonus episodes + emails
💌 Try Flodesk for easy email marketing, forms + e-commerce & use this link for 50% off your first year (affiliate link)

In this BEST OF episode, we dive deep what it means to feel seen and how social media is messing with our sense of self-worth and community connection.

Tune in to hear me break down:

• What it means to "feel seen" online & offline
• Why visibility ≠ connection (or $ales)
• Ways to find connection in your work & life without being on the apps

And if you're thinking of stepping back from social media, go ahead & download our FREE Leaving Social Media Toolkit today! 🩵