With a multifaceted career both onscreen and behind the camera, Orlando Jones is the definition of a storyteller. And he’s no stranger to being called an outlaw– from "Mad TV" to Mr. Nancy, Orlando’s been shaking things up since the 90s! 

To start off, Orlando tells TS Madison about his evolution in the entertainment industry. An early adapter of mobile media content, Orlando’s media company won the first ever virtual reality Emmy Award. Next, they get into the nuances of centering Black voices in entertainment– storytelling is a powerful tool, and Orlando wants to see more stories by and for Black America! 

And of course, we have to get into the “American Gods” of it all. Madison thanks Orlando for his work shaping the show’s iconic, Mr. Nancy– not only playing the character on screen but developing the character in the writer’s room as well! The pair talk Mr. Nancy’s iconic monologues, the show’s reimagining of spirituality and mythology…and of course get into the details of Orlando’s controversial firing from the show– which prompted fan backlash and boycotts of the show’s third (and ultimately final) season.

That’s not all– in an exclusive moment, Orlando Jones reveals he’s just finished a Mr. Nancy novel! Could we see a role for TS Madison if (and when) it’s ever adapted for the screen???

"Outlaws" is hosted by TS Madison, and is part of the Outspoken Network from iHeartPodcasts, co-produced by Turtle Run Entertainment.

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Is it on? Is it on?? Honey, is this thing recording?! TS Madison broke the Internet with six seconds and a 22-inch weave. And she didn’t just go viral — she became part of the culture, from “RuPaul's Drag Race” to Beyoncé’s “Renaissance.” Her superpower? Her voice. Her kryptonite? Doesn’t exist. Her podcast? The one they never saw coming. 

Each week on “Outlaws,” Madison sits down with living legends and rising stars who shed their armor and own their stories — turning side-eyes into sermons, pain into punchlines, and grief into galaxies. They speak when silence is safer. They dream when told to disappear. And they know what so many are taught to fear: that when you speak your truth, you open a portal.

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