Dominic Grossman and Katie Desplinter have had the benefit of running in the lead pack for many years. What you may not know about them is that when they are not racing, they are avid volunteers pacing or crewing others. Dom and Katie record this podcast pre-Western States 100 - where Dominic paced Tim Olsen to his second win in the second hottest year.

We talk about strategies that can help you pace or crew AND how you, as a racer, can help your pacer and crew help you.