Do you notice a difference in today’s podcast? Is there a whiff of professionalism about it? No? Never mind then... Jane and Fi are undeterred by management and chat Taylor Swift’s graphic lyricism, life drawing with your daughter, and Stone Age orgies.

Plus, writer and broadcaster Elizabeth Day discusses her latest novel ‘One of Us’.

We've announced our next book club pick! 'Just Kids' is by Patti Smith.

You can listen to the playlist here: https://open.spotify.com/playlist/3qIjhtS9sprg864IXC96he?si=uOzz4UYZRc2nFOP8FV_1jg&pi=BGoacntaS_uki.

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Podcast Producer: Eve Salusbury

Executive Producer: Rosie Cutler

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