A Productive Conversation

PM Talks S2E5: Adaptability


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This episode marks the latest in our ongoing monthly PM Talks series, where I sit down with Patrick Rhone to explore a theme through candid conversation, lived experience, and a touch of real-time reflection.

This time, we didn’t just talk about adaptability—we lived it. Technical issues and illness meant we had to reschedule and re-record, but in doing so, we ended up with an even deeper and more resonant conversation. Adaptability isn’t just a concept—it’s a practice, and in this episode, we show what that looks like in real life.

Six Discussion Points

  • Why slowing down is often the best way to adapt effectively
  • How "known unknowns" create conditions that demand adaptability
  • Patrick’s perspective on college uncertainty and shifting expectations
  • The tension between efficiency and agency in modern life
  • How small pauses create the space for better decisions
  • Why resilience isn’t the same as adaptability—and why both matter

Three Connection Points

  • Resilience (Resistance)
  • The Known Unknowns
  • TV is Broken

Sometimes we adapt by choice. Other times, we’re forced into it. Either way, the quality of our adaptation depends on how well we pause, observe, and decide. This conversation offers a reminder that in a fast-moving world, the real power lies in how we slow down and shift course with intention.

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