A Productive Conversation

PM Talks S2E8: Creativity


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This episode is the latest in our monthly PM Talks series, where I’m joined by my friend Patrick Rhone to explore timeless ideas around productivity, creativity, and everything in between. In this conversation, we take a deep dive into what it really means to be creative—especially when you're busy, overwhelmed, or stuck in perfectionism.

We unpack how constraints can fuel creativity, how time and space are both essential and elusive, and why imperfection might be your creative superpower. There’s a lot of riffing, real talk, and reflection in this one—and if you’ve felt like your creative well is running dry, this might be the refill you’ve been waiting for.

Six Discussion Points

  • The relationship between speed, structure, and creativity
  • Why constraints can actually enhance creativity (yes, really)
  • John Cleese’s insight: creativity requires both time and space
  • How perfectionism can sabotage creative flow
  • Turning mundane tasks into creative opportunities
  • The importance of being your own audience—and knowing what’s “for you”

Three Connection Points

  • Patrick’s Website
  • Rick Rubin's The Creative Act: A Way of Being
  • "The creative process needs space—not just time." Read 50 more lessons I've learned here.

This episode is a reminder that creativity isn’t just for artists—it’s for anyone trying to make something meaningful with their time. Whether you’re juggling routines, deadlines, or just trying to show up a little more intentionally each day, the ideas we explore here can help unlock creative momentum—even in life’s most constrained moments.

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