This episode is the latest in our monthly PM Talks series, where Patrick Rhone and I step back from tactics and tools to explore the deeper questions that shape how we live, work, and show up. What we planned to discuss was poise—but what we actually talked about was something more urgent.

Recorded in real time as events were unfolding in Minneapolis and St. Paul, this conversation became about moral clarity, civic responsibility, and what it means to stay aligned when neutrality no longer feels like an option. This isn’t a polished debate or a tidy argument. It’s a candid conversation about right versus wrong—and why that distinction matters now.

Six Discussion Points

• Why this conversation couldn’t follow the plan—and why that mattered
• The difference between poise as composure and poise as alignment
• Why this moment isn’t about left versus right, but right versus wrong
• The danger of performative belief and the erosion of truth
• How lived experience carries weight even when it isn’t “linkable”
• What it means to keep living your life responsibly in a fractured moment

Three Connection Points

• Requiem for the American Dream (documentary)
• Willhoit’s Law (on power and the application of law)
• PM Talks series archive

I’m grateful Patrick was willing to have this conversation when he did, and I’m grateful to you for listening. This episode isn’t meant to inflame or persuade—it’s meant to bear witness. Sometimes that’s the most productive thing we can do.