On Brand with Nick Westergaard

Preparing Your Brand for Wilderness Survival with Jonathan David Lewis


Listen Later

“Research shows that our psychology is very similar in situations where we’re struggling with branding and marketing challenges and when we’ve crash-landed on a mountain.” Today’s marketplace is chaotic. Jonathan David Lewis, partner at McKee Wallwork + Company, calls this new normal we find ourselves in “the wild.” This is the focus of his new book, Brand vs. Wild: Building Resilient Brands for Harsh Business Environments. We chatted about survival, leadership, and how your brand can avoid walking in circles on this week’s episode of the On Brand podcast. 

About Jonathan David Lewis

The author of Brand vs. Wild: Building Resilient Brands for Harsh Business Environments, Jonathan David Lewis is an engaging and authoritative speaker on shaping a brand that can survive—and thrive—in today’s tough, uncertain world.

As partner and strategy director at McKee Wallwork + Company, Jonathan led his firm to be recognized by industry purveyor Advertising Age as a national leader in branding and marketing, winning the Southwest Small Agency of the Year, national B2B Campaign of the Year, and national Best Places to Work awards.

A branding and business strategist, Jonathan honed his skills during the lean years of the Great Recession, helping brands navigate today’s unforgiving new business paradigms. Jonathan’s opinions are highly sought by numerous business and marketing publications, including Forbes, Digiday, and Advertising Age, where he explores the factors that lead to stalled growth and the principles proven to help companies navigate the ambiguities and dangers of the brand wilderness.

Episode Highlights

What happens when we find ourselves and our businesses in this chaotic wild? “We’re overwhelmed. There are seven factors that affect business growth. Three are external — the economy, aggressive competition, and industry disruption. The other four are internal factors.” These can be especially damaging for brands today.

“The wild turns brands wild.” We get erratic and inconsistent. “What used to work — things like size — are a vulnerability today. And when you’re lost, you lose your confidence and increase your fear.”

What do most of us do when we’re lost in the wild? Lewis pointed us to the research of Dr. John Leach, one of the world’s leading experts on survival psychology, noting the 10-80-10 theory. This states that in survival situations, 10% are prepared, 80% are paralyzed, and 10% panic. “Fight, flight, and freeze. You see this in brands too — especially recently with United and Pepsi.”

So, what do you do when you discover that you’re lost as a brand? “STOP. It’s the hardest thing to do. It’s an acronym survivalists use — Stop, Think, Observe, Plan. Take the time to orient yourself. That’s how you avoid walking in circles.”

What brand has made Jonathan smile recently? “I’d have to say Carls Jr.” Lewis cited their abandonment of their previous sex-focused strategy. Go Daddy has done something similar as well, trading the axiom of “sex sells” for telling better stories about small business websites.

To learn more, go to jonathandavidlewis.com and you can check out the book on Amazon.

Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

...more
View all episodesView all episodes
Download on the App Store

On Brand with Nick WestergaardBy Nick Westergaard

  • 4.8
  • 4.8
  • 4.8
  • 4.8
  • 4.8

4.8

93 ratings


More shows like On Brand with Nick Westergaard

View all
The Knowledge Project by Shane Parrish

The Knowledge Project

2,686 Listeners

Daily Creative with Todd Henry by Todd Henry

Daily Creative with Todd Henry

516 Listeners

Social Media Marketing Podcast by Michael Stelzner, Social Media Examiner

Social Media Marketing Podcast

1,443 Listeners

The StoryBrand Podcast by StoryBrand.com

The StoryBrand Podcast

1,931 Listeners

The Digital Marketing Podcast by Daniel Rowles and Ciaran Rogers

The Digital Marketing Podcast

114 Listeners

Marketing School - Digital Marketing and Online Marketing Tips by Eric Siu and Neil Patel

Marketing School - Digital Marketing and Online Marketing Tips

1,261 Listeners

10% Happier with Dan Harris by 10% Happier

10% Happier with Dan Harris

12,700 Listeners

The Diary Of A CEO with Steven Bartlett by DOAC

The Diary Of A CEO with Steven Bartlett

8,395 Listeners

The Futur with Chris Do by The Futur

The Futur with Chris Do

857 Listeners

Hello Monday with Jessi Hempel by LinkedIn

Hello Monday with Jessi Hempel

1,016 Listeners

Nudge by Phill Agnew

Nudge

177 Listeners

The CMO Podcast by vYve & Jim Stengel

The CMO Podcast

351 Listeners

The Marketing Millennials by Daniel Murray

The Marketing Millennials

155 Listeners

Marketing Against The Grain by Hubspot Media

Marketing Against The Grain

357 Listeners

The CEO’s Guide to Marketing by Forbes

The CEO’s Guide to Marketing

25 Listeners