We are facing the possibility of a shortage of toilet paper as workers at the Kawerau plant are locked out over their wage negotiation stalemate.

The toilet paper manufacturer Essity and the Pulp and Paper Workers' Union have been in negotiations over pay for several months.

That had Simon Barnett & James Daniels discussing the wage price spiral and what is fair and reasonable.

NZ Herald Business Editor At Large Liam Dann joined them on the show.

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