Interesting Times with Ross Douthat

Primary Winners and National Wieners

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The hosts take apart why Nikki Haley and Ron DeSantis can’t seem to form competitive coalitions against Donald Trump, and whether Haley, DeSantis, the Supreme Court “or God himself” can keep the former president from becoming the Republican nominee.

Plus, Michelle Cottle reveals her Plan B if her political reporting career doesn’t work out.

(A transcript of this episode can be found at the top of the episode page on the Times website.)

Mentioned in this episode:

  • Suffolk University-Boston Globe poll of likely New Hampshire Republican primary voters
  • Hot dog car sketch on “I Think You Should Leave”

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