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Making 2.2 million in projected profit and considering bankruptcy at the same time — that's the reality more real estate investors face than anyone admits. In this episode, David Richter sits down with Mike McHale, author of The Money Habit, to unpack why so many entrepreneurs feel broke no matter how much revenue they generate, and what's actually driving that cycle at a biological level.
They dig into Parkinson's Law, optimal foraging theory, loss aversion, and the psychology behind why money behavior gets amplified — not fixed — as your income grows. If you've ever wondered why more deals haven't solved your financial stress, this episode is the conversation you need to hear.
Timeline Highlights
[0:46] Introducing Mike McHale and the theme: feeling broke after big deals
[2:19] The investor doing 20 flips who called to ask about declaring bankruptcy
[3:24] Why business owners put on a brave face — even in private calls
[4:06] The truth about fake success and why it attracts the wrong kind of support
[4:47] Why 83% of businesses are living check to check — and it gets worse as they grow
[5:09] Scaling chaos: why more deals doesn't mean more profit
[6:03] What this investor actually needed (hint: it wasn't bankruptcy)
[6:36] Mike's personal story of ignoring bills and avoiding the problem
[7:20] Parkinson's Law explained: why more money available means more money spent
[8:06] How Profit First uses compressed money to make you more effective
[10:11] Why nailing business finances but not personal finances still leaves you broke
[10:33] Optimal foraging theory: the ancient reason we're wired to gorge on big paydays
[12:03] Why the big check triggers a "kill the wooly mammoth" response in your brain
[12:46] The carving tool analogy: how multiple accounts rewire the gorge instinct
[13:21] Why first-time real estate investors are especially vulnerable to gorging
[14:06] Lifestyle creep and loss aversion: why we won't cut back when income drops
[15:32] How Profit First helps both spenders and hoarders find the middle
[15:54] Why even David has a CFO for his own business
[17:13] Why money behavior gets amplified — not corrected — as you earn more
[17:51] How Mike's team uses a Profit First professional plus an internal numbers person
[18:29] Why the right system balances emotional and analytical financial decisions
[18:45] About Mike's book The Money Habit and who it's written for
Key Takeaways
Links & Resources
Get Mike's book The Money Habit at mikemotorbike.com or any major retailer
Book a free discovery call to get Profit First working in your real estate business: simplecfo.com
Closing
Thanks for tuning in. If this episode gave you clarity on why you're making money but still feeling broke, make sure to subscribe, leave a review, and share it with another investor who needs to hear this. If you're ready to stop the cycle and build real financial systems around your business, visit simplecfo.com and take your free discovery call today.
Your bookkeeper is not a CFO — and confusing the two is costing you money. In this episode, I break down the three distinct roles on your financial team, why most business owners accidentally ask the wrong person the wrong questions, and what that mistake is quietly costing them.
We talk about the real difference between a bookkeeper, a CPA, and a CFO using a hospital analogy that makes it crystal clear, what each role is actually responsible for, and why having all three aligned — or at least understanding what each one does — is the key to running a business where your finances actually work for you instead of against you.
Timeline Highlights
[0:26] Why confusing your bookkeeper for a CFO will cost you money
[1:01] The mistake most business owners make when they hire a bookkeeper
[1:18] Why your bookkeeper can't tell you where your profit went
[1:39] What a CPA actually does (and doesn't do) for your business
[2:14] The day-to-day questions only a CFO can answer
[2:58] The hospital analogy: bookkeeper as nurse, CPA as surgeon, CFO as private doctor
[3:30] Why the CPA and bookkeeper both "work for the hospital" (the IRS)
[4:14] How a CFO bridges the gap between you and your financial team
[4:58] What a bookkeeper is actually there to do
[5:23] The questions that are CFO questions — not bookkeeping questions
[6:09] What a fractional CFO is and why it's an option even for smaller businesses
[6:35] How to use your bookkeeper correctly from day one
[7:22] When good tax advice creates a bad business decision
[7:38] The truck example: how a CPA recommendation can hurt your cash flow
[9:24] Why asking your bookkeeper CFO-level questions leaves money on the table
Key Takeaways
Links & Resources
Book a free discovery call to get the right financial guidance in your corner: profitrei.com
Closing
Thanks for spending time with me today. If this episode gave you clarity or a new perspective on how to build your financial team, make sure to like, subscribe, and comment below. If you're ready to apply what we talked about today with real guidance and accountability, visit profitrei.com to schedule a free discovery call and create your path to financial clarity and freedom.
In this episode of the Profit First for Real Estate Investors podcast, host Kristina sits down with Simple CFO's Lee Vlcek to pull back the curtain on exactly how their CFO process works with real estate investors.
Lee shares how he helps flippers, wholesalers, and growing business owners transform financial chaos into clarity — not just with better bookkeeping, but with forward-looking systems that help them make smarter decisions. From the very first onboarding call to implementing Profit First and building out dashboards that operators can actually understand, Lee walks through what the Simple CFO process looks like from the inside.
If you're an operator who's great at finding deals but struggling to understand where your money is going, this episode shows exactly how the right financial systems can change everything.
Episode Highlights
[0:24] – Introduction to Lee Vlcek and his role at Simple CFO
[2:05] – The types of clients Lee works with and what they have in common
[2:54] – Lee's background growing a construction company from 3 to 25 employees
[3:34] – Why operators are great at deals but need help on the financial side
[4:28] – What happens on the first onboarding call with a new client
[6:07] – The most common problem: lots of activity but no cash clarity
[11:10] – How Simple CFO turns numbers into actionable decisions
[12:01] – The CEO dashboard and why it resonates most with operators
[13:07] – Why visual dashboards hit differently than spreadsheets and QuickBooks
[17:25] – Why plugging in Profit First numbers without a diagnosis usually fails
[17:57] – The power of actually paying yourself through the Profit First model
[18:43] – The risks of DIY Profit First without expert calibration
[19:01] – How Simple CFO customizes the Profit First setup for each client
[23:43] – Client case study introduction: New Jersey flipper with a capital problem
[24:45] – The core issue: capital deployed opportunistically instead of strategically
[25:09] – Implementing Profit First and evaluating deal performance by type
[25:31] – Cutting underperforming deal types and eliminating low-return lending
[26:24] – Results in 60 days: margins up 20–30%, operating reserves at three months
[27:06] – The leadership shift from chasing deals to building a real business
5 Key Takeaways
Links & Resources
Closing Remark
If you're an investor who feels like you're always busy but never sure where the money went, this episode is your wake-up call. Lee Vlcek breaks down exactly how Simple CFO meets clients where they are — and walks them toward the financial clarity that actually lets them build a business instead of just chasing the next deal.
If this sounds like you, head over to simplecfo.com and book a discovery call to get the financial help and guidance your business needs.
In this episode of the Profit First for Real Estate Investing podcast, I sit down with Mike Ochsner—applied neurology coach, author, and performance expert—to talk about how optimizing your brain can directly impact your business, productivity, and profits.
We dive into Mike's personal journey from racking up 15 concussions through extreme sports to discovering applied neurology and reversing years of pain and cognitive decline in under 20 minutes. We unpack how entrepreneurs and real estate investors are unknowingly running with the "parking brake" on their brain, what ADHD really means for high performers, and how simple neurological resets can eliminate chronic pain, brain fog, and decision fatigue. If you've ever pushed harder and harder only to feel like you're spinning your wheels, this episode will change how you think about performance.
Episode Highlights
[1:32] – Introducing Mike Ochsner and how they met
[2:39] – Mike's background in extreme sports and accumulating 15 concussions
[3:37] – Discovering applied neurology and reversing years of damage in 20 minutes
[4:32] – Using neurological techniques in firearms training with 288x faster results
[5:57] – ADHD as a superpower vs. a struggle depending on which part of the brain is in control
[7:12] – How fixing eye tracking can improve reading speed and comprehension by 50–100%
[9:07] – The sports car and parking brake analogy for brain performance
[11:17] – Who Mike works best with and why entrepreneurs are almost always a fit
[13:00] – Real-world example: a 100M+ CEO with a 7-year hip flexor issue resolved in 90 seconds
[16:28] – Mike walks listeners through a live neurological exercise they can try right now
[19:16] – Why pulling on your ears actually reduces neck tension and pain
[21:26] – Why crunchy neck sensations exist and how the brain creates protective tension
[23:44] – The front of the brain explained: risk analysis, creativity, logic, and memory
[26:12] – Mike's book: Unleash ADHD as Your $6 Million Superpower
[27:50] – The free Peak Brain Reboot workshop and what it covers
[30:01] – Mike's parting words: attend the free on-demand workshop at PeakBrainReboot.com
5 Key Takeaways
Links & Resources
If this episode gave you a new way to think about performance, productivity, and the connection between your brain and your business, make sure to rate, follow, and review the podcast. And share it with an entrepreneur or investor who keeps pushing harder—but still feels stuck.
If you don't know your target allocation percentages, you don't have a financial plan for your business. In this episode, I break down what TAPs actually are, why most business owners are running on the "hope and pray plan," and how knowing the right percentages—based on where your business is right now—can be the difference between financial chaos and a clear path to freedom.
We talk about the five core Profit First bank accounts, what percentages you should be hitting at different revenue levels, and how to get started even if you're currently spending more than you're making. Whether you're brand new or already doing seven figures, this episode gives you a target to aim for.
Timeline Highlights
[0:26] Why not knowing your TAPs means you have no financial plan
[0:48] What target allocation percentages actually are (and why they matter)
[1:17] How Profit First works and why it's like the envelope method for your business
[1:58] The five Profit First bank accounts explained
[2:17] Why I call profit, owner's comp, and owner's tax the "Golden Trio"
[3:19] The danger of the "black hole bank account"
[4:02] How TAPs answer the question: how much goes where?
[4:22] Why most businesses are built on the hope and pray plan
[5:12] TAP breakdown for businesses doing $0–$250K in revenue
[6:23] Why owner's comp is 50% at the early stage
[6:46] How the percentages shift dramatically as you grow past $250K
[7:36] Why you should never reinvest every dollar back into the business
[8:14] The difference between TAPs (targets) and CAPs (current allocation percentages)
[8:58] How to start with 1% to each Golden Trio account if you're upside down
[9:17] How Profit First builds wealthy business habits—not just bank accounts
[10:23] Where to find the full TAP breakdown for every business size
Key Takeaways
Links & Resources
Get the full TAP breakdown for your business size and book a free discovery call: simplecfo.com
Closing
Thanks for spending time with me today. If this episode gave you clarity or a new perspective, be sure to like, subscribe, and comment below. If you're ready to apply what we talked about today with real guidance and accountability, visit profitrei.com to schedule a free discovery call and create your path to financial clarity and freedom.
When clients come to Simple CFO, they almost always arrive with one version of their story — and leave the first 60 days with a completely different plan. In this episode, Cristina Gutierrez sits down with CFO Aaron Jurski to pull back the curtain on how he meets clients exactly where they are and transforms their financial clarity from the ground up.
Aaron walks through real client case files — from a high-cash-flow commercial real estate investor drowning in unchecked subscriptions, to a Utah contractor who'd never built a budget, to a North Carolina investor sitting on $18M in assets but paying an unnecessary 18-20% on his debt. Each story reveals what it actually looks like when a fractional CFO steps in, asks the right questions, and builds a plan that matches the real business — not the one described in the sales call.
Timeline Highlights
[0:23] Introducing Aaron Jurski and his background in commercial real estate and private equity
[1:54] The types of clients Aaron works with: contractors, developers, and experienced investors
[3:30] How Simple CFO's methodology creates financial clarity and understanding
[5:35] Case file #1: The high-cash-flow retail investor spending $600K/year with zero visibility
[11:48] Case file #2: The Utah contractor six months behind on reconciliation with no budget
[13:15] Building lender decks and helping emerging businesses access institutional financing
[14:37] Why fewer KPIs are always better — and how to choose the right ones
[16:16] The hidden cash flow hit of five-week payroll months
[18:57] The common thread: every client needs visibility and understanding of their numbers
[20:03] Why entrepreneurs manage from their bank balance — and what that costs them
[21:13] The tax blindspot almost every small business owner shares
[22:06] CFO vs. bookkeeper: the difference between ten feet and 10,000 feet
[24:05] What the first 60 days with Aaron actually looks like
[25:22] Case file #3: The North Carolina investor with 200 rentals and untapped institutional equity
[33:38] Why DIY Profit First without a financial assessment funds bad habits instead of fixing them
[35:29] The elevator pitch test: knowing your numbers in one sentence
[38:23] Budget-to-actuals and why you should never keep adjusting the budget
[39:34] The stoplight page, goal worksheets, and KPI tracking inside the Simple CFO dashboard
[41:24] Delegating the right tasks so the owner can stay focused on driving revenue
Key Takeaways
Links & Resources Book a free financial discovery call with the Simple CFO team: simplecfo.com
Closing Thanks for listening to the Simple CFO Case Files on the Profit First for Real Estate Investors podcast. If Aaron's stories resonated with where you are in your business right now, make sure you're subscribed so you never miss an episode. And if you're ready to stop managing from your bank balance and start building real financial clarity, head to simplecfo.com and book your free discovery call today.
In this episode of the Profit First for Real Estate Investing podcast, I sit down with Ken Barton—entrepreneur, real estate investor, and founder of Offa—to talk about how he went from high-income W-2 sales to building a platform that’s changing how investors find and fund deals.
We dive into Ken’s unconventional journey, from selling $40M in software to buying his first off-market deal, and how frustration with outdated systems led him to build a marketplace for real estate investors. We also unpack the real opportunity behind off-market deals, why most investors struggle with access and financing, and how connecting deal flow with lending could completely change the game. If you’ve ever felt stuck trying to find deals or funding, this episode will open up a new way of thinking.
Episode Highlights
[1:15] – Ken’s unconventional background and global sales career
[2:21] – Why high income doesn’t equal wealth (tax problem realization)
[4:00] – The turning point: discovering real estate for tax advantages
[6:07] – The $185K business plan story that funded his first investments
[8:14] – Buying his first duplex for $75K during the pandemic
[9:26] – Why off-market deals outperform on-market opportunities
[11:33] – The frustration that led to building Offa
[13:10] – Why both buyers and sellers hated existing platforms
[15:17] – Building a marketplace that actually serves investors
[17:22] – How Offa is growing purely through word-of-mouth
[18:55] – Why buyer behavior is more powerful than static “buy boxes”
[21:33] – The vision: becoming the MLS for real estate investors
[25:06] – The real monetization strategy: lending, not subscriptions
[27:08] – Why access to debt is the biggest bottleneck for investors
[29:31] – 100% financing: how it works and why it’s a game changer
[30:28] – The long-term vision to scale Offa into a massive platform
5 Key Takeaways
Links & Resources
If this episode helped you think differently about how to find deals, fund them, and scale your investing business, make sure to rate, follow, and review the podcast. And share it with an investor who’s ready to stop chasing deals—and start accessing them.
If you’re mixing your business and personal money, you’re not just making things messy—you’re putting your entire business at risk. In this episode, I break down why separating your finances isn’t optional if you actually want to build a stable, scalable business.
We talk about the real dangers of co-mingling funds, from losing legal protection to unknowingly draining your business or personal reserves. I also walk through the hidden habit most entrepreneurs fall into—robbing Peter to pay Paul—and how that cycle quietly destroys financial progress. If you want clarity, control, and real financial freedom, this is a foundational shift you can’t ignore.
Timeline Highlights
[0:00] Why mixing business and personal finances creates risk
[0:57] How co-mingling breaks the corporate veil
[1:24] The legal and financial dangers most owners overlook
[1:54] “Robbing Peter to pay Paul” inside your business
[2:17] Using personal reserves to float your business
[2:33] Draining your business to fund your lifestyle
[2:46] Why both scenarios lead to financial collapse
[3:19] The reality: you started your business for freedom—not stress
[3:39] The first step: separating accounts completely
[3:57] Why even separate banks can help create discipline
[4:15] The importance of accountability in your finances
[4:49] How a CFO helps enforce structure and discipline
[5:08] Fixing co-mingling habits without shame
[5:41] Why your business must support your lifestyle—not the other way around
[5:58] Using systems like Profit First to control your cash
Key Takeaways
Links & Resources
Book a free discovery call and build real financial structure in your business: profitrei.com
Closing
Thanks for spending time with me today. If this episode helped you see why separating your finances is so important, make sure to follow the show, leave a review, and share it with another business owner who might be mixing funds without realizing the risk. And if you’re ready to build real structure, discipline, and clarity into your business finances, visit profitrei.com and book your free discovery call to start creating financial freedom.
Welcome back to another Simple CFO Case Files episode, where we go behind the scenes with the CFOs actually doing the work. In this episode, I sit down with Tony Castronovo to break down how financial clarity, coaching, and real partnership transform real estate businesses at every level.
We talk about what really happens when business owners focus only on deals without understanding profitability, why so many investors feel like they’re making money but still feel broke, and how having a CFO changes the way decisions get made. Tony shares real examples—from fixing payroll and tax structures to helping clients evaluate deals and even restructure partnerships—all while building a business that actually works for the owner.
Timeline Highlights
[0:23] Introducing Tony Castronovo and his role as a CFO
[1:35] What a CFO really does: financial coaching for entrepreneurs
[3:04] The range of clients—from beginners to $20M+ businesses
[5:16] A real example: fixing payroll, taxes, and owner pay
[7:22] What happens on a “battle plan” call with a new client
[8:38] Why more deals don’t always mean more profit
[9:29] Breaking down deal profitability and reverse engineering margins
[10:19] What financial clarity actually means for business owners
[11:02] The most common pain: “I make money but don’t keep it”
[11:47] CFO vs CPA vs bookkeeper—what’s the real difference
[13:03] Making strategic decisions with a financial lens
[14:57] What happens in the first 60 days with a client
[16:25] Cleaning up books and implementing Profit First
[17:39] Why expense reduction and margin improvement matter
[20:51] Customizing Profit First beyond the standard model
[23:05] Real-time decision making: “Can I afford this?”
[24:09] Using dashboards to forecast and plan cash flow
[27:37] Managing multiple deals and understanding cash position
[29:21] Case study: restructuring a partnership and improving margins
[31:06] The importance of accountability and client involvement
[33:53] Final advice: why every business needs a financial lens
Key Takeaways
Links & Resources
Book a free discovery call and get clarity on your numbers: profitrei.com
Closing
Thanks so much for spending time with me today. If this episode helped you see how having a financial partner can completely change your business, make sure to follow the show, leave a review, and share it with another real estate investor who’s working hard but not seeing the results they want. And if you’re ready to bring clarity, strategy, and real financial leadership into your business, visit profitrei.com and book your free discovery call with our team.
In this episode of the Profit First for Real Estate Investing podcast, I sit down with Bree Hartman—self-storage investor and founder of Self Storage School—to talk about how she went from burnout in a service-based business to building a scalable, cash-flowing portfolio that supports the life she actually wants.
We dive into why self-storage is one of the most underrated asset classes, how Bree reverse engineered her life before choosing her investment strategy, and why operations—not just acquisitions—are the key to long-term success. If you’re tired of the hustle, chasing doors, or building a business that doesn’t align with your lifestyle, this episode will challenge you to think differently about both wealth and freedom.
Episode Highlights
[0:00] – Bree’s transition from gym owner to self-storage investor
[2:20] – The “no toilets, no tenants” moment that changed everything
[3:38] – Why it took nearly a year to land her first deal
[4:42] – The mistake most beginners make: not putting in offers
[5:22] – Why finding deals is the ultimate real estate superpower
[6:07] – Bree’s current portfolio and long-term strategy (2–3 deals per year)
[7:09] – A real deal breakdown: $500K purchase → $1M+ value-add play
[8:55] – Why focusing on operations beats chasing more deals
[10:11] – The truth about syndication vs. ownership control
[11:36] – When investors should consider moving into self-storage
[13:13] – Why self-storage is a “sticky” subscription-based business
[15:13] – How raising rents monthly drives massive long-term value
[17:22] – Reverse engineering your life before choosing an asset class
[18:41] – Why low expense ratios create a bigger margin for error
[20:58] – The burnout of passion-based businesses and what to do instead
[24:56] – The question that changed everything: “Would I be happy in 10 years?”
[27:16] – Building a business that supports your life—not replaces it
5 Key Takeaways
Links & Resources
If this episode challenged you to rethink how you’re building wealth—and inspired you to design a business around your life instead of the other way around—please rate, follow, and review the podcast. And share it with someone who’s ready to stop hustling and start building real freedom.
From the publisher's feed
Real estate investors work hard, make great money, and still feel broke, but it’s not your fault. Without a simple system, cash slips through the cracks and every next deal feels like a lifeline…
That’s why David Richter, author of Profit First for Real Estate Investors with a foreword by Profit First founder Mike Michalowicz, created this podcast to reveal how real investors flipped the script and started paying themselves first. Each episode shares honest stories from investors who used Profit First to eliminate stress, build stability, and reclaim their lives.
If you’re ready to stop surviving and start thriving, this is where your financial clarity begins.

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