Phil Tarrant and Tom Panos discuss the hard-hitting topics relevant to real estate that others might shy away from. In the week that the Labor government announced the first budget of their tenure, the pair touch briefly on the initiatives announced by federal Treasurer Jim Chalmers. Tom and Phil then look at the mortgage cliff that has been predicted, querying the likelihood that Australians could fall off. As well as discussing the need to reframe traditional real estate, the duo share some insights into what mortgage brokers can learn from real estate agents, reflect on buyers’ scripts, and chat through cyber security and data sovereignty. Make sure you never miss an episode by subscribing to us now on Apple Podcasts. Did you like this episode? Show your support by rating us or leaving a review on Apple Podcasts (REB Podcast Network) and by liking and following Real Estate Business on social media: Facebook, Twitter and LinkedIn. If you have any questions about what you heard today, any topics of interest you have in mind, or if you’d like to lend a voice to the show, email [email protected] for more insights.