Carlos and his co-host, Courtney Parker, are back with another episode of Reali-TEA Crime Stories. and this time, they’re unpacking the scandalous saga of Erika Jayne and Tom Girardi. Carlos weighs in on the big question: Did Erika know about the fraud? Was it a classic case of “don’t ask, don’t tell”? And yes, they get into all the drama, including the infamous “bloody earrings.”

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