Originally released July 2023, Alan sits down in this episode with Dave Ulrich, often referred to as the “Father of Modern HR.” It’s a fascinating conversation about creating value for the customer, always working from the customer backwards, and thinking about business from the outside in. Alan and Dave discuss how your job as a leader is to make someone else better, and how you can intentionally create work environments where people feel safe to dare. It’s a special episode, and we’re re-releasing it in anticipation of Season Five. 

Season Five of Leading Up With Udemy returns on Wednesday, January 10th, and we’ve got some amazing guests lined up for the new year. 

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