Fellow PhD turned brewer, Matt Sampson, sits down for an impromptu voice memo recording in the Sway Brewing cellar! Origin stories, brewing philosophies, and the recent collaboration is explored!

Visit Sway Brewing + Blending in Door County, WI! https://www.swaybeer.com/

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CHAPTERS

00:00 Welcome to Respecting the Beer!

00:53 Sway Brewing Overview

01:56 Matt Chemistry to Beer

03:54 Door County Move Pivot

06:05 Hacienda Origin Story

10:33 Foeders and Cellar Tour

12:29 Cleaning and Oak Benefits

16:41 From Brewer to Owner

18:53 Meeting and Collab Setup

22:34 Wild Rice Collab Idea

25:52 Building The Rice Lager

26:26 Pause For A Pour

27:30 What to Name It?

29:15 Cereal Mash And Hops

31:28 Fermentation And Flavor

33:09 Recipe Tweaks And Foam

34:38 Future Collabs And Lessons

38:07 Death Row Beer Picks

40:38 Support us on Patreon!

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CREDITS

Hosts:

Bobby Fleshman - https://www.mcfleshmans.com/

Allison Fleshman -https://www.instagram.com/mcfleshmans/

Joel Hermansen

Gary Ardnt - https://everything-everywhere.com/everything-everywhere-daily-podcast/

Music by Sarah Lynn Huss - https://www.facebook.com/kevin.huss.52/

Recorded & Produced by David Kalsow - https://davidkalsow.com/

Brought to you by McFleshman's Brewing Co

Allison and Bobby discuss marketing for McFleshman’s, how to stand out when the local craft brewing scene continues to grow. Listen to the full conversation for FREE on our Patreon page!

This is an interlude episode between seasons recorded on a phone. We’ll be back with full interviews with brewers in our next season.

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CREDITS

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Bobby Fleshman - https://www.mcfleshmans.com/

Allison Fleshman -https://www.instagram.com/mcfleshmans/

Joel Hermansen

Gary Ardnt - https://everything-everywhere.com/everything-everywhere-daily-podcast/

Music by Sarah Lynn Huss - https://www.facebook.com/kevin.huss.52/

Recorded & Produced by David Kalsow - https://davidkalsow.com/

Brought to you by McFleshman's Brewing Co

We're taking a break from the podcast for a bit. But we're not leaving you empty handed. Bonuses are coming your way!

Get your tickets to Lager Fest 2026: https://www.mcfleshmans.com/lagerfest/

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CREDITS

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Bobby Fleshman - https://www.mcfleshmans.com/

Allison Fleshman -https://www.instagram.com/mcfleshmans/

Joel Hermansen

Gary Ardnt - https://everything-everywhere.com/everything-everywhere-daily-podcast/

Music by Sarah Lynn Huss - https://www.facebook.com/kevin.huss.52/

Recorded & Produced by David Kalsow - https://davidkalsow.com/

Brought to you by McFleshman's Brewing Co

Vinnie returns for part 2 of our conversation! He digs into their sour beer program, what it took to open a second brewery, and experimental hops usage. We also get our classic Mt. Rushmore of Brewing.

Pick up some Russian River Brewing Co: https://www.russianriverbrewing.com/

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CHAPTERS

00:00 Welcome to Respecting the Beer!

02:14 Barrels Bacteria Coolship

04:21 Market Shift and Quality

06:57 Pilot Brewery Hop Trials

08:56 Hop Breeders Shape IPA

12:16 Russian River 110 Fundraiser

14:03 Building the Dream Brewery

19:45 Independence and Growth Mindset

22:11 Needed or Wanted Windsor

24:18 Sustainability CO2 Water

27:51 Construction Mistakes and Support

29:36 Food and Restaurant Realities

31:02 Death Row Beer Flight

35:33 Support us on Patreon!

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CREDITS

Hosts:

Bobby Fleshman - https://www.mcfleshmans.com/

Allison Fleshman -https://www.instagram.com/mcfleshmans/

Joel Hermansen

Gary Ardnt - https://everything-everywhere.com/everything-everywhere-daily-podcast/

Music by Sarah Lynn Huss - https://www.facebook.com/kevin.huss.52/

Recorded & Produced by David Kalsow - https://davidkalsow.com/

Brought to you by McFleshman's Brewing Co

Vinnie shares the origin story of Russian River Brewing Company, how he and his wife, Natalie took over and kept it alive. He also tells all about their most popular beer: Pliny the Elder, the standard for IPAs. Part 1 of 2!

Pick up some Russian River Brewing Co: https://www.russianriverbrewing.com/

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CHAPTERS

00:00 Welcome to Respecting the Beer!

01:27 Welcome Vinnie Cilurzo!

04:20 Founding Russian River

05:14 Pliny the Elder Origins

09:40 Pliny Younger Releases

11:02 Inspired Brewers and Tornado

15:40 Decker Slash Story

18:46 Early IPA Influences

22:55 Simcoe Hop Deep Dive

27:48 STS Pils and Lager Focus

31:52 Support us on Patreon!

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CREDITS

Hosts:

Bobby Fleshman - https://www.mcfleshmans.com/

Allison Fleshman -https://www.instagram.com/mcfleshmans/

Joel Hermansen

Gary Ardnt - https://everything-everywhere.com/everything-everywhere-daily-podcast/

Music by Sarah Lynn Huss - https://www.facebook.com/kevin.huss.52/

Recorded & Produced by David Kalsow - https://davidkalsow.com/

Brought to you by McFleshman's Brewing Co

Live form the Tardigrade's Bookshelf, the gang dives into bock beers and the story of Scapegoat, McFleshman's take on a bock.

Bonus content that didn't make the main feed, Q&A with the audience and business owner woes as we interview the owner's of the venue.

Visit the Tardigrade's Bookshelf in Appleton, WI: https://www.tardigradesbookshelf.com/

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CHAPTERS

00:00 Welcome to Respecting the Beer LIVE

01:04 Venue Vibes

02:10 Bock Beer History

04:44 Goats and Doppelbock

06:59 Water and Yeast

08:56 Augustiner Yeast Love

12:36 Yeast Drift and Repitching

18:28 Malt Builds the Bock

23:09 Sweetness vs Maltiness

26:21 Beer Poker Tradition

27:42 Decoction and Melanoidins

29:04 Scapegoat Name Story

32:45 Hops for Balance

34:36 Ingredient Sourcing Small Brewery

35:10 Why Hop Farms Matter

35:40 Scapegoat Vibe Pairings

37:02 Maibock Versus Bock

38:34 Minty Hops And Timing

40:15 Golden Bock Market Talk

41:09 Tardigrades Tap List

42:21 Tardigrade's Bookshelf Plugs

43:03 Support us on Patreon!

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CREDITS

Hosts:

Bobby Fleshman - https://www.mcfleshmans.com/

Allison Fleshman -https://www.instagram.com/mcfleshmans/

Joel Hermansen

Gary Ardnt - https://everything-everywhere.com/everything-everywhere-daily-podcast/

Music by Sarah Lynn Huss - https://www.facebook.com/kevin.huss.52/

Recorded & Produced by David Kalsow - https://davidkalsow.com/

Brought to you by McFleshman's Brewing Co

Jamison and Delaney of Screaming Hound Home Brewing join us for some candid feedback from a pro! Bobby and Decker share some notes on some samples and offer some encouragement to these two young homebrewers.

Bonuses you won't hear on the main feed: Taste test brew #3, an iteration of the amber and Jamison's solutions for highly pressurized bottles.

Want to try Screaming Hound brews? Join the Green Bay Rackers Homebrew Club! https://www.rackers.org/

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CHAPTERS

00:00 Welcome to Respecting the Beer!

01:42 Why They Started Brewing

04:02 Apartment Brewing Gear Talk

06:47 First Brews and Saison Disaster

09:37 Oktoberfest Tasting and Bottle Conditioning

16:20 Extract Sweetness and Boilovers

21:35 Next Sample Corn Amber Experiment

22:21 Taming the Corn Flavor

22:46 Carbonation Chaos and Aging

23:55 California Common Breakdown

25:48 Hops Choices and Storage

29:44 Hop Sensitivity and Gruit Ideas

33:46 Bottle Reuse and New Glarus Tips

35:28 Homebrew Club and Water Chemistry

38:56 Brewing Advice and Wrap Up

39:58 Support us on Patreon!

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CREDITS

Hosts:

Bobby Fleshman - https://www.mcfleshmans.com/

Allison Fleshman -https://www.instagram.com/mcfleshmans/

Joel Hermansen

Gary Ardnt - https://everything-everywhere.com/everything-everywhere-daily-podcast/

Music by Sarah Lynn Huss - https://www.facebook.com/kevin.huss.52/

Recorded & Produced by David Kalsow - https://davidkalsow.com/

Brought to you by McFleshman's Brewing Co

We turn the tables on Gary Arndt! Beer drinker and idea man. Allison, Bobby, and Decker ask about his favorite podcast moments, curiosity driving his wildly successful podcast, and what's next for him.

Listen to Gary's podcast: https://everything-everywhere.com/everything-everywhere-daily-podcast/

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CHAPTERS

00:00 Welcome to Respecting the Beer

00:44 Naming McFleshmans Bits

01:51 Gary The Idea Guy

03:02 Why Podcasts Open Doors

06:34 Beer Learning And Buzzwords

09:43 Curiosity And Quantum Detour

10:21 Marketing Reality And Stairs

12:33 Mastering Many Beer Styles

14:51 Careers Focus And Entrepreneurship

19:04 Exit Plans And Employee Ownership

21:29 Gary's Most Memorable Podcast Moment

22:42 Water Chemistry And World Beer Cup

24:20 Gary's Favorite Guest

27:02 Gary's REAL Memorable Moment

27:48 Threading the Nerd Needle

29:04 Podcast Growth Plans

30:28 Completionist Club

31:54 Live Show Tour Ideas

34:50 Gary's Last Travel Goals

37:48 Marshall Islands Stories

41:10 Everything Everywhere Beer

42:32 Support us on Patreon!

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CREDITS

Hosts:

Bobby Fleshman - https://www.mcfleshmans.com/

Allison Fleshman -https://www.instagram.com/mcfleshmans/

Joel Hermansen

Gary Ardnt - https://everything-everywhere.com/everything-everywhere-daily-podcast/

Music by Sarah Lynn Huss - https://www.facebook.com/kevin.huss.52/

Recorded & Produced by David Kalsow - https://davidkalsow.com/

Brought to you by McFleshman's Brewing Co

Meet Aaron “Flavor Baaron” Reimers! Bobby and Allison turn the mic on in-house brewer Aaron Reimers. Aaron shares his journey from sculpture artist to brewing. It's not the normal route we usually hear! He also gives you a peek behind the curtain of some of the beer experiments McFleshman's.

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CHAPTERS

01:58 Aaron Origin Story

06:52 NA And Cider Mission

08:39 Dunkelweizen Obsession

11:38 Brewing Science Banana Notes

13:51 Oh Crap Mead Explosion

19:30 Bobby Sharpie Chaos

22:56 Pencil Paper Patterns

23:53 Brewing Without Homebrew

25:02 Hiring Trainable Talent

25:38 Pilot System Learning

27:03 Color Theory In Drinks

28:52 Purple Pink Blue Challenges

30:48 Wax Dips Presentation

32:10 Swiss Army Brewery Days

36:00 Schedules Chaos Problem Solving

37:37 Black Friday Flavor RnD

40:04 Tinctures Extract Lab

42:00 Wrap Up And Credits

42:31 Support us on Patreon!

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CREDITS

Hosts:

Bobby Fleshman - https://www.mcfleshmans.com/

Allison Fleshman -https://www.instagram.com/mcfleshmans/

Joel Hermansen

Gary Ardnt - https://everything-everywhere.com/everything-everywhere-daily-podcast/

Music by Sarah Lynn Huss - https://www.facebook.com/kevin.huss.52/

Recorded & Produced by David Kalsow - https://davidkalsow.com/

Brought to you by McFleshman's Brewing Co

Clint Lohman, head brewer and co-founder of Working Draft Beer Company in Madison, WI joins us to share his beer journey and company origins.

Visit Working Draft in Madison, WI: https://www.workingdraftbeer.com/

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CHAPTERS

00:00 Welcome to Respsecting the Beer!

01:06 Working Draft Overview

02:02 Lager Epiphany

03:02 From Factory To Homebrew

05:03 Breaking Into Pro Brewing

06:32 Vintage To Wisconsin Brewing

07:34 Joining Working Draft

08:16 Kirby Nelson Mentorship

09:38 Early Beers and Flagships

11:30 Why Lager Is Hard

13:56 Process Over Recipe

18:51 Removing Harshness

23:23 Decoction and Filtration

27:39 Czech Lagers and Fest

30:22 Smoked Wild Rice Lager

34:54 Cereal Mash Deep Dive

37:27 Death Row Beer Flight

39:00 Festival Invite and Wrap

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CREDITS

Hosts:

Bobby Fleshman - https://www.mcfleshmans.com/

Allison Fleshman -https://www.instagram.com/mcfleshmans/

Joel Hermansen

Gary Ardnt - https://everything-everywhere.com/everything-everywhere-daily-podcast/

Music by Sarah Lynn Huss - https://www.facebook.com/kevin.huss.52/

Recorded & Produced by David Kalsow - https://davidkalsow.com/

Brought to you by McFleshman's Brewing Co