In this episode, Andrew Drummond and Matt Hart sit down with Gary Cantrell, the visionary mind behind the infamous Barkley Marathons and the Last Runner Standing race format. They explore the creative genius behind these brutal endurance challenges, uncover whether Stephen King's "The Long Walk" sparked Gary's imagination, and reveal if ultrarunning legend Kilian Jornet has ever thrown his hat in the ring for Barkley.

In this episode, hosts Andrew Drummond and Matt Hart sit down with writer, Run The Alps founder, and longtime mountain runner Doug Mayer. Doug’s roots run deep in the White Mountains, where early adventures shaped his sense of adventure, curiosity, and community. We trace the arc that led him from Randolph, New Hampshire to Chamonix, France, where he now lives year-round. Doug is the author of many fine books that you should read: 

• The Race that Changed Running: The Inside Story of UTMB
• Run the Alps' Trail Running Chamonix-Mont Blanc: 30 Must-Do Trail Runs
• The Last of the Giants: An Ultra Running Graphic Novel

In this episode Andrew Drummond and Matt Hart talk to Tom Hooper and Josh Ferenc about the World Mountain Running Championships. Tom is a long-time race director here in the east who has had a front row seat for the evolution and development of Team USA and the Worlds. Josh an educator and who was an athlete on previous Worlds teams. This year he transitioned into coaching our U20 Team (under 20 athletes) traveling to race abroad. 

Our 2025 Bubba's wrap up podcast goes off the rails but resumes control 00:14:30 into it. Good times with Monte McIndoe and Russell Grant on this one.

Show Notes:
Bubba's Backyard Ultra Event Page
Lukas Janulitas (Strava)
Aaron Copelaned (Strava)
Erica Notini (Strava)

Bubba's Backyard Ultra Preview - another year, another stacked field. Russell Grant joins race directors Monte McIndoe and Andrew Drummond to chat about the upcoming event. All info can be found here: https://whitemountainski.co/pages/bubbas-backyard-ultra

In this episode, Andrew Drummond and Matt Hart talk to Jeff Garmire about his recent record run on the Appalachian Trail. Traveling southbound from Mount Katahdin, Maine, to Springer Mountain, Georgia he finished his self-supported record on September 21, 2025, covering the entire 2,189 mile trail, with 465,000 feet of elevation gain, in 45 days and 8 hours. Along the way he raised more than $42,000 for the suicide prevention nonprofit the Trevor Project. 

• Jeff's Instagram
• FKT Website: Jeff Garmire - Appalachian Trail (AT)
• The Trevor Project

In this episode, Andrew Drummond and Matt Hart talk to Finn Melanson, host of the Singletrack Podcast and Co-Founder of Massif Running, an events company that hosts trail races in the Wasatch Mountains of Utah. Finn has a love for the northeast and got his start on trails with a thru hike of the Appalachian Trail. On September 23, 2025 he set a new Fastest Known Time (FKT) on the Hundred Mile Wilderness, a 100-mile section of the AT from Monson, Maine to Abol Bridge, the southern border of Baxter State Park.

Finn's Hundred Mile Wilderness FKT on Strava
FKT: Finn Melanson - Hundred Mile Wilderness (ME) - 2025-09-23
Singletrack Podcast
Massif Running

In this episode, Andrew, Monte, Russ, and Matt discuss the innaugural White Mountains 100 Event that Run The Whites hosted on September 12, 2025. 

Special thanks to Jake Acito, Nicholas Fucile, Jacquiline Fucile, Mac Guthrie, and Spencer Ralston for providing their audio interviews.

The White Mountain 100 Miler 2025 RESULTS Write Up
The Route on Strava
Fastest Known Time (FKT) Page
The White Mountain 100 Miler Event Page (keep an eye out for 2026)

In this episode, we sit down with David Sinclair to trace his journey from Nordic skiing at Green Mountain Valley School and Dartmouth to becoming one of the most versatile trail running athletes in the U.S. David shares stories from his early days balancing skiing and running, his progression into marathon racing and Olympic Trials qualification, and his breakthrough success on the trails with podium finishes at CCC and a golden ticket to Western States. Along the way, we chat about his Boott Spur VK Throwdown, the training and recovery strategies that keep him competitive, and what's required to perform at the highest level in ultra-endurance sport.

David Sinclair on Instagram
David Sinclair on Strava
CCC video from Craft
White Mountain Throwdown

Andrew Drummond interviews Lexi Jackson after her new White Mountain Direttissima FKT of 5 days and 16 hours. 

White Mountain Direttissima FKT
Direttissima Route
Lexi Jackson on STRAVA