Most brands say they want to work with creators…but almost all of them get it wrong.

In this episode, Nik sits down with Ben Soffer to break down what authentic creator marketing actually looks like. They unpack why creators aren’t just distribution, but community builders, sales accelerants, and cultural translators for brands that know how to work with them.

Ben shares hard-earned lessons from building Spritz Society, including how creator partnerships evolve as brands scale, why gifting often backfires, and how PR, seeding, and relationship-first outreach can unlock real advocacy.

They also dive into micro vs. macro creators and why saves and sends matter more than likes and comments.

If you’re tired of transactional influencer campaigns that don’t move the needle and want to build creator partnerships that actually drive trust, this episode is for you.

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