This week’s special guest is broadcaster, journalist, campaigner and now podcaster Dame Esther Rantzen. She and Susannah discuss mothers, Incas and bloomers…

Recorded in late January, this is another two-parter. The second part drops on Sunday.

Find Esther's 'That's After Life' podcast here. You can also find her on her website estherrantzen.co.uk and click here for Childline and here for The Silver Line.

Thanks to our life-affirming house band ‘duo’. Find them at duoguitarmusic.com, order 'Gig in Your Garden' here and watch their Facebook gig here every Friday at 8pm UK time. The band are giving proceeds from the album sales to Florence Nightingale Foundation.

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